| 20-11-2024 05:35 PM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Past getaways are not a good prediction of future karma.
In the good old days, records were manual.
Now they are all stored on server farms.
Better tell the truth.
And do more good deeds.
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yea I called the HR and told her how to proceed and HR checked with the legal team,
Legal team say probation don't need declare.
not sure if that's always the case
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| 20-11-2024 08:06 AM |
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Past getaways are not a good prediction of future karma.
In the good old days, records were manual.
Now they are all stored on server farms.
Better tell the truth.
And do more good deeds.
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| 19-11-2024 10:08 PM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
hi may i know what about for probation? do you know if probation need to declare? or anyone that have probation irl but don't need to declare.
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probation can only be imposed by court judge at end of hearing
and will leave a record with CRO whh technically it will be deemed as 'spent' if u stay offence free for 5 years or something?
when was the probation sentence imposed btw
and looks like u need to declare.
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| 19-11-2024 06:47 PM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
It depends.
If the question is:
Have you been convicted for any offence?
Then better tell the truth and nothing but the truth.
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ok will do that, hoping for the best
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| 18-11-2024 09:01 AM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
hi may i know what about for probation? do you know if probation need to declare? or anyone that have probation irl but don't need to declare.
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It depends.
If the question is:
Have you been convicted for any offence?
Then better tell the truth and nothing but the truth.
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| 14-11-2024 11:55 PM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
the declaration qn is so weird, normally organisations will only ask 'have you ever been convicted or charged before'?
spent record is as good as no record. you are not charged or convicted.
even if your HR check with law enforcement agencies, there will be no record.
hence, for 'have you ever been convicted or charged before?', an applicant can legally put No.
you can google spf spent record for more info.
unless you are applying for a job in the uniformed organisations, i wld say dun need to think so much.
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hi may i know what about for probation? do you know if probation need to declare? or anyone that have probation irl but don't need to declare.
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| 14-06-2024 05:43 AM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
I know someone who was arrested as a teen (under 16yo) for shoplifting. Went to court and was given probation. The probation officer told her that in future, she can indicate “no” on job applications if it asked whether she has been arrested / convicted of offence before.
This person went on to work in many hospitals as a nurse with no problem. Now already in her 40s…
Does police have her records? Probably yes but maybe it’s not easily available to HR. The only time she was really checked was when she tried to adopt a baby. MSF really cleaned her out and found her juvenile record. BUT she got police clearance done and passed in the adoption application.
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Maybe it is fundamentally a question of how honest one wants to be. A lie is a lie and the cost of telling untruths is the risk of being found out one day.
Anyway after a few days of angst responding on this thread it seems dreamlander has finally taken the advice to move on. This is sensible because at some point people have to decide and move on.
Can I suggest we don’t revisit this topic cos if not the dilemma for dreamlander/friend continues. Some of the previous posts also not very nice . It’s also not really helpful to give examples of loophole because it may not apply successfully in dreamlander/friend case & then who will they blame if something goes wrong?
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| 14-06-2024 12:10 AM |
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Originally Posted by dreamlander
Very interesting feedback. I find that very insightful. Thank you.
Anyone else with similar or different insights, do share what you think. I appreciate and welcome all feedback.
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I know someone who was arrested as a teen (under 16yo) for shoplifting. Went to court and was given probation. The probation officer told her that in future, she can indicate “no” on job applications if it asked whether she has been arrested / convicted of offence before.
This person went on to work in many hospitals as a nurse with no problem. Now already in her 40s…
Does police have her records? Probably yes but maybe it’s not easily available to HR. The only time she was really checked was when she tried to adopt a baby. MSF really cleaned her out and found her juvenile record. BUT she got police clearance done and passed in the adoption application.
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| 13-06-2024 10:39 AM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
ya sia bro seasoned with salt and pepper, feel like eating him
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hahahahaha
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| 11-06-2024 01:21 PM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
u are amongst those that kana spot check by polis is it?
sound so seasoned ah u
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ya sia bro seasoned with salt and pepper, feel like eating him
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