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Today 12:10 AM
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robbish

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Conversation quality descending into nonsense again 🤡

I hope good teachers have better things to do than engage in debate with anonymous trolls during the weekend. Do use the time to rest and recharge, and maybe plan for your upcoming trips (if any)!

(Yes, clearly I’m not one of those good teachers… &#128520
rubbish reply. people who live in glass houses shldnt throw stones.
Yesterday 08:06 PM
Unregistered Conversation quality descending into nonsense again 🤡

I hope good teachers have better things to do than engage in debate with anonymous trolls during the weekend. Do use the time to rest and recharge, and maybe plan for your upcoming trips (if any)!

(Yes, clearly I’m not one of those good teachers… &#128520
Yesterday 07:52 PM
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rubbish

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With your logic of nothing wrong being double standard, then the teachers need to have expectation of double standard treatment when come to KPI grading, workload, the teaching system, work culture , treatment from senior manaement / peers. be it making sense or non making sense , fair or unfair. there is nothing wrong with that.

In short, feel free to complain and there is nothing wrong being unfair or mistreated.
rubbish response. original message was comparing standards applied to adults/teachers vis a vis students. you cant even correctly identify the premise of the argument.
Yesterday 07:03 PM
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With your logic of nothing wrong being double standard, then the teachers need to have expectation of double standard treatment when come to KPI grading, workload, the teaching system, work culture , treatment from senior manaement / peers. be it making sense or non making sense , fair or unfair. there is nothing wrong with that.

In short, feel free to complain and there is nothing wrong being unfair or mistreated.
Believe the original poster was referring to different standards applied towards adults, vs. children.
Yesterday 06:25 PM
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Stupid example. Grope boobies without consent is a criminal act.

As for examples like smoking -- I don't feel that it is contradictory for a teacher to educate students (with the necessary scientific knowledge, values and ethics) to make an informed decision about smoking, while the teacher also makes their own informed decision as an adult to smoke or not smoke.

Yes I agree that if a teacher chooses to smoke, they should exercise discretion and try to avoid being seen by students, and also avoid smoking before work so they don't bring the third-hand smoke to their classrooms.

But to say teachers cannot smoke at all is rubbish. They are full grown adults with independent thought and the legal right to exercise their decision whether to do it or not. Double standards? Yes, there ARE double standards in society in the treatment of adults and children, in almost every aspect of life. What's wrong with that?
With your logic of nothing wrong being double standard, then the teachers need to have expectation of double standard treatment when come to KPI grading, workload, the teaching system, work culture , treatment from senior manaement / peers. be it making sense or non making sense , fair or unfair. there is nothing wrong with that.

In short, feel free to complain and there is nothing wrong being unfair or mistreated.
Yesterday 02:17 PM
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marbles

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Seems like many vocal KPs here as well as (former??) teachers who have lost their marbles
the ‘vocal’ ones here mostly are quiet in real life. only dare to ‘complain’ anonymously. most (real) KPs wont bother to reply or even read this thread.
Yesterday 02:13 PM
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heyy

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So teacher can go clubbing grope some boobies smoking visiting prostitutes gambling etc but telling student not to smoke gamble etc.

Telling students to behave when the teachers are not behaving. What a double standard

Walk the talk.

Students are human beings too.
not entirely true. teachers whose ‘rauchy’ private life somehow becomes public, will be invited for a session with the SLs. some ends up leaving the service etc. very hush hush. only those in the know, will know.
bottomline, if you’re caught doing something that jeorpadises your standing as a teacher, you’ll have to face the music.
so must live by the SAF’s 9th core value. can do anything but dont get caught
Yesterday 02:07 PM
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So teacher can go clubbing grope some boobies smoking visiting prostitutes gambling etc but telling student not to smoke gamble etc.

Telling students to behave when the teachers are not behaving. What a double standard

Walk the talk.

Students are human beings too.
Stupid example. Grope boobies without consent is a criminal act.

As for examples like smoking -- I don't feel that it is contradictory for a teacher to educate students (with the necessary scientific knowledge, values and ethics) to make an informed decision about smoking, while the teacher also makes their own informed decision as an adult to smoke or not smoke.

Yes I agree that if a teacher chooses to smoke, they should exercise discretion and try to avoid being seen by students, and also avoid smoking before work so they don't bring the third-hand smoke to their classrooms.

But to say teachers cannot smoke at all is rubbish. They are full grown adults with independent thought and the legal right to exercise their decision whether to do it or not. Double standards? Yes, there ARE double standards in society in the treatment of adults and children, in almost every aspect of life. What's wrong with that?
Yesterday 12:17 PM
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Teacher

So teacher can go clubbing grope some boobies smoking visiting prostitutes gambling etc but telling student not to smoke gamble etc.

Telling students to behave when the teachers are not behaving. What a double standard

Walk the talk.

Students are human beings too.
Yesterday 06:44 AM
Unregistered Seems like many vocal KPs here as well as (former??) teachers who have lost their marbles
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