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Today 04:23 PM
Unregistered To all these 'seniors' claiming that they are up to two times better than fresh grad, a serious question: Why the pay complaints? Cannot market and position yourself? Never ask for raise and expect promotions to come as a surprise? Scared to jump ship?

You mean companies don't want to get value out of their money?
Today 03:38 PM
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Just join . Private U , Fresh grad ,4.2k .
when is your start date?
Today 02:21 AM
Unregistered Im currently in the midst of sending the estimated salary as a post ns grad with diploma. Any idea what would be a good range. Bc typical market range would be around 2.5k but looking at the remarks earlier on and also with the Nucleus Prog upcoming, should I give a higher estimated monthly?
Yesterday 07:31 PM
Unregistered Just join . Private U , Fresh grad ,4.2k .
22-10-2020 03:45 PM
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Err if u work ncs in this scenario then you quit after one year, will employers appreciate?
Asking for a friend.
Quit then quit. Nobody bothers. As long as they don't inherit the ****.
22-10-2020 02:59 PM
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Every year existing staff annual increment doesn't even go above 5% cap.
But in the same year, fresh grad no experience no proven skills, every year their starting pay increase by 25 to 50%. This industry is a joke.

Why not all the seniors just quit. And rejoin company as fresh. Instant 5k increment. And can use the "I'm fresh" excuse to not deliver.

Othwerise, it doesn't make sense for fresh grad to get paid 5k to barely do nothing while seniors do all the work for 4.2k
Err if u work ncs in this scenario then you quit after one year, will employers appreciate?
Asking for a friend.
22-10-2020 10:22 AM
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The thing is, fresh grads see their friends get 6-7k at tier 1 companies and think, hey, I'm also valued as much right? Same course, same type of work? Why not I give chance a bit, ask for 5k only? Surely that's undervaluing myself a bit?

When in reality, their friends have good grades, secured multiple swe internships, competitions, got practice interview questions & can perform during interview, then finally get offer in tier 1 companies after 4-5 rounds of interviews. They go through all those hoops, they prove that they can code then of course the tier 1 company offer 6-7k.

On the other hand you have some 2nd lower grad who only have their school projects to showcase apply to some t2/3 company (who apparently pays their seniors peanuts) and ask for 5k of course get ridiculed, and rightfully so.
Every year existing staff annual increment doesn't even go above 5% cap.
But in the same year, fresh grad no experience no proven skills, every year their starting pay increase by 25 to 50%. This industry is a joke.

Why not all the seniors just quit. And rejoin company as fresh. Instant 5k increment. And can use the "I'm fresh" excuse to not deliver.

Othwerise, it doesn't make sense for fresh grad to get paid 5k to barely do nothing while seniors do all the work for 4.2k
21-10-2020 11:28 PM
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If based on MOM criteria for employment pass for foreigner... It's min 4.5k. This figure is broad across all industry so its quite consistent. Fresh grad in other sectors their starting pay around 3.2k to 3.5k. So again show consistency

What is inconsistent or wrong is fresh grad in IT getting paid 5k to do half the job of seniors. That's wrong
If the company value allthis fresh talent so much, why do we senior need to "teach" them since we are already underpaid. So yep. This is the result of fresh grad getting crazy starting pay

Get high starting pay. Be prepared to work 24/7 cause no one will help you.
The thing is, fresh grads see their friends get 6-7k at tier 1 companies and think, hey, I'm also valued as much right? Same course, same type of work? Why not I give chance a bit, ask for 5k only? Surely that's undervaluing myself a bit?

When in reality, their friends have good grades, secured multiple swe internships, competitions, got practice interview questions & can perform during interview, then finally get offer in tier 1 companies after 4-5 rounds of interviews. They go through all those hoops, they prove that they can code then of course the tier 1 company offer 6-7k.

On the other hand you have some 2nd lower grad who only have their school projects to showcase apply to some t2/3 company (who apparently pays their seniors peanuts) and ask for 5k of course get ridiculed, and rightfully so.
21-10-2020 10:54 PM
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If based on MOM criteria for employment pass for foreigner... It's min 4.5k. This figure is broad across all industry so its quite consistent. Fresh grad in other sectors their starting pay around 3.2k to 3.5k. So again show consistency

What is inconsistent or wrong is fresh grad in IT getting paid 5k to do half the job of seniors. That's wrong
If the company value allthis fresh talent so much, why do we senior need to "teach" them since we are already underpaid. So yep. This is the result of fresh grad getting crazy starting pay

Get high starting pay. Be prepared to work 24/7 cause no one will help you.
they should just lower their salary and get diploma holders instead to meet the ceca quota
21-10-2020 01:54 PM
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honestly this just shows the salary discrepancy in ncs. not sure why people like you still stay there and not find a job that is worth your skills lol
If based on MOM criteria for employment pass for foreigner... It's min 4.5k. This figure is broad across all industry so its quite consistent. Fresh grad in other sectors their starting pay around 3.2k to 3.5k. So again show consistency

What is inconsistent or wrong is fresh grad in IT getting paid 5k to do half the job of seniors. That's wrong
If the company value allthis fresh talent so much, why do we senior need to "teach" them since we are already underpaid. So yep. This is the result of fresh grad getting crazy starting pay

Get high starting pay. Be prepared to work 24/7 cause no one will help you.
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