Today 10:06 PM |
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Ceiling for geo4 is 7.7k, and geo 5, 8.25k
Nowhere near the ceiling lah
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Still within the 6k to 7+k estimate that was mentioned above leh. If you average performer why must be at the ceiling?
The example of 6.4k one most probably will reach the ceiling.
Your one means u just not progressing as fast as the rest lor
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Today 09:50 PM |
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I see. Thanks for the sharing. This will still put you within the estimate of 6+k to 7k at 10YOE. Since you're already at 6k with 8YOE. Just that yea unfortunately, you're not at the higher end of the spectrum due to the various circumstances.
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Ceiling for geo4 is 7.7k, and geo 5, 8.25k
Nowhere near the ceiling lah
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Today 06:09 PM |
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I believe there was a pay adjustment for the other officers who missed out on this 'GEO3 Pay Raise'. You can check your Aug 2022 to Oct 2022 salary. There should have been an adjustment starting from Oct 2022 pay.
Whether you want to call it adjustment for the promo/merit increments, or for the GEO3 'pay raise', from my understanding, there was an adjustment made.
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Everyone got an adjustment...the point the previous poster was making is that the adjustment for GEO3s was nearly twice the % compared to GEO4 and 5.
Those who got promoted from 3 to 4 just before the adjustment...damn unlucky.
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Today 03:38 PM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
GEO4 here. Only hit 6k after 8YOE. Promoted during covid. Promotion and merit increments were cut during those years, and also missed out on the 10% pay raise for GEO3. Nowhere near the ceiling.
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I believe there was a pay adjustment for the other officers who missed out on this 'GEO3 Pay Raise'. You can check your Aug 2022 to Oct 2022 salary. There should have been an adjustment starting from Oct 2022 pay.
Whether you want to call it adjustment for the promo/merit increments, or for the GEO3 'pay raise', from my understanding, there was an adjustment made.
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Today 03:32 PM |
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GEO4 here. Only hit 6k after 8YOE. Promoted during covid. Promotion and merit increments were cut during those years, and also missed out on the 10% pay raise for GEO3. Nowhere near the ceiling.
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I have a colleague. Also GEO4. Promoted in 2021. But good performer. No KP roles yet. But 7YOE is 6.4k now. So by 10 YOE is either GEO5 or near GEO4 ceiling. So pretty good estimate by the primary teacher I will say. Even for the COVID promotees
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Today 03:30 PM |
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it’s all abt SLs. some SLs ( few) are very good and go all the way out to tell parents at every opportunity abt the expectations . n reassure staff they don’t hv to bend backwards.
then u have the scumbags SLs who are not fit to be leaders in the first place for not having abt ounce of moral fibre or courage , who don’t see their role as helping their staff.
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Not all about SLs la. Teachers also need to assume responsibility. Need to know how to handle parents.
Sure SLs play a role of course. But teachers cannot just all push the blame if they themselves fail to handle properly. Same for SLs, if teachers fail to handle, they also can't just blame teachers. Must ask themselves if they got set a proper direction. These kind of things, takes a village one. No one person can just be solely responsible.
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Today 03:21 PM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
GEO4 here. Only hit 6k after 8YOE. Promoted during covid. Promotion and merit increments were cut during those years, and also missed out on the 10% pay raise for GEO3. Nowhere near the ceiling.
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I see. Thanks for the sharing. This will still put you within the estimate of 6+k to 7k at 10YOE. Since you're already at 6k with 8YOE. Just that yea unfortunately, you're not at the higher end of the spectrum due to the various circumstances.
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Today 02:18 PM |
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPrimaryTeacher
If you're talking about a typical BA/BSc/PGDE starter from GEO2 (salary around 3+k gross), then usually at 10 YOE, average should be drawing GEO4 salary, or near GEO4 ceiling (really depending on when you get promoted to GEO3, and to GEO4), since even with your criteria (normal form teacher), there will also be a wide spectrum.
But a good estimate will be around 6+k to 7k gross monthly, with all the bonuses, should be near 100k like what the other poster has mentioned.
Good performers should reach this 6+k in their 7th year or so. And by 10th year, depending on whether they have positions, they should at least reach GEO5 and probably even near the ceiling.
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GEO4 here. Only hit 6k after 8YOE. Promoted during covid. Promotion and merit increments were cut during those years, and also missed out on the 10% pay raise for GEO3. Nowhere near the ceiling.
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Today 11:40 AM |
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Nowadays, teachers do not need to give their personal contact numbers to students and parents correct?
How do they contact you?
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do you not realise that life had continued and we didn’t die as a species when we didn’t hv mobile phone before 2000s?!?!?!
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Today 11:29 AM |
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Usually expectations or lines should be clearly set via PG at the start of the year. So that the parents are aware on, what they can contact you for, and what help/advice/guidance can they get from you. Since you have chosen to give your personal number to parents (kudos on you since it is not mandatory). I believe the parents are appreciative of the direct communication line that you have established.
Unfortunately, if you have not drawn the lines at the start of the year, any responses now to draw the line may feel a bit reactive.
For pri sch, a good way is to throw the question back to the parent. E.g. "How can we help/support your child so that they can be more responsible in school?" Usually the parents will self-reflect and realise that they themselves have to guide them better at home first.
I think for sec sch, can just state the stance that you adopt in class (e.g. we encourage our students to grow and develop in their personal responsibility, hence he can try to look for the lost bottle himself the next day, and search the lost & found areas.
Slowly but surely, once the parents realises that you have shifted the responsibility back to them/the child, and that the ball is actually not in your court, I believe such minute things will not be within their scope of queries for you. But it will take time, since I think you have already helped to solve a few of these things before, so it might have already become an automated process for them to just direct these small matters to you.
For the assessment book one, similarly, just direct it back to them also. e.g. "perhaps you can try e-mailing the bookstore, or google search if any other retailers has them". If you have been the one 'finding' the solution for them, rather than directing them to find the solution, then you have to start directing them now.
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it’s all abt SLs. some SLs ( few) are very good and go all the way out to tell parents at every opportunity abt the expectations . n reassure staff they don’t hv to bend backwards.
then u have the scumbags SLs who are not fit to be leaders in the first place for not having abt ounce of moral fibre or courage , who don’t see their role as helping their staff.
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