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Today 12:05 AM
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For EO grade/school ranks, try searching for the salary scales on this thread. It's a bit difficult to say things like 'SEO3 = VP' because, while often true, a VP can technically be promoted to superscale. Similarly, a senior HOD can be promoted to SEO3.

For pegging with HQ roles, it's roughly there - except EOs seldom take on 'manager' roles in HQ. In the professional wing at least, it's all flattened to Officers (for GEO) and Senior Officers (for SEO), which are all equivalent to SEO1 'estab'.
Thanks very much

I have an older cousin, not in the education service, but is a DD in MOE HQ. I guess he's VP-equivalent then
Yesterday 11:32 PM
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Ya sia, good pay, good bonus, good leave still complain.. so easy teach and mark paper only.. think teacher best civil service job, no need write paper or do procurement..
ya indeed. deal with kids only ma. teach and just ensure decent results?

compared to drs for eg.. have to treat patients with complex health issues, deal with life and death situations (deal with actual death sometimes), difficult family members, at the same time keep up with research/ publications and education of junior drs...

really different calibre la. heaven vs earth in terms of value to society too
Yesterday 10:56 PM
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Dear all,

I'm very new to this field! Just out of curiousity, what is the "pegging" between the EO grades, KP and HQ positions? Is this correct?

SEO3 = VP = DD in HQ
SEO2 = HOD = AD in HQ
SEO1 = Junior HOD = Lead Manager in HQ
GEO5 = Normal teacher / SH = Manager in HQ

Thank you!
For EO grade/school ranks, try searching for the salary scales on this thread. It's a bit difficult to say things like 'SEO3 = VP' because, while often true, a VP can technically be promoted to superscale. Similarly, a senior HOD can be promoted to SEO3.

For pegging with HQ roles, it's roughly there - except EOs seldom take on 'manager' roles in HQ. In the professional wing at least, it's all flattened to Officers (for GEO) and Senior Officers (for SEO), which are all equivalent to SEO1 'estab'.
Yesterday 10:09 PM
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Bumping this please!

Dear all,

I'm very new to this field! Just out of curiousity, what is the "pegging" between the EO grades, KP and HQ positions? Is this correct?

SEO3 = VP = DD in HQ
SEO2 = HOD = AD in HQ
SEO1 = Junior HOD = Lead Manager in HQ
GEO5 = Normal teacher / SH = Manager in HQ

Thank you!
Yesterday 09:02 PM
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hmmm interesting...i have also seen some jcs and sec sch having unique SH titles like "innovation" or something...that must be quite uncommon?

and some sec sch have 2 IP SH in sci dept...uncommon too?
As an earlier poster commented, it's pretty much how the SLs choose to utilise KP positions.

For example, another factor they might consider would be distribution of non-IP KP - if the YHs and AYHs belong to other departments, for instance, it might not be uncommon for additional IP SHs to be raised to help even it out among the school's departments.
Yesterday 08:54 PM
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Depends on the student population and also subjects offered. In JCs for example you will see some departments even having two HODs, and two or more SHs IP - this is due to the large student population. In secondary schools, there may be some departments (e.g. Aesthetics) that look after several niche subjects, and there may be two SHs IP in such departments.

It's not common but not that uncommon either. It's also not about pushing very hard or whatever, it's just about how the SLs strategise their utilisation of the SEO1 posts available (i.e. KP quota) in the school.
hmmm interesting...i have also seen some jcs and sec sch having unique SH titles like "innovation" or something...that must be quite uncommon?

and some sec sch have 2 IP SH in sci dept...uncommon too?
Yesterday 07:08 PM
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Teachers always have long holidays. So nice.
Ya sia, good pay, good bonus, good leave still complain.. so easy teach and mark paper only.. think teacher best civil service job, no need write paper or do procurement..
Yesterday 06:02 PM
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What are the chances of an IP department having 2 SH appointments?

Is this only possible if P really pushes very hard for the 2nd appointment?

Also, what is the quota of KPs in a normal school population?
Depends on the student population and also subjects offered. In JCs for example you will see some departments even having two HODs, and two or more SHs IP - this is due to the large student population. In secondary schools, there may be some departments (e.g. Aesthetics) that look after several niche subjects, and there may be two SHs IP in such departments.

It's not common but not that uncommon either. It's also not about pushing very hard or whatever, it's just about how the SLs strategise their utilisation of the SEO1 posts available (i.e. KP quota) in the school.
Yesterday 05:13 PM
Unregistered What are the chances of an IP department having 2 SH appointments?

Is this only possible if P really pushes very hard for the 2nd appointment?

Also, what is the quota of KPs in a normal school population?
Yesterday 08:36 AM
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Two snake

s://.reddit.com/r/askSingapore/comments/t9b1r2/what_are_some_of_the_toxic_things_that_sg/?rdt=58676

Yes. Informed decision and do such things to students. Freaking hypocrite


Informed decision and still do action that is not acceptable for a public figure/ civil servant
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