| Today 09:32 PM |
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yeah lor so good hor? go try lor.
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teaching is a job for rejects la. cannot get into medicine dentisty law engineering accounting business.... then bobian go into teaching lor
hence usually teachers were once poor students with subpar results.. some even delinquents who were once retainees in school and uni. cannot help it one la... low quality nobodies produce low quality nobodies lor, the vicious cycle continues
much unlike drs and lawyers.. once upon a time they were the cream of the crop, then marry their fellow drs and lawyers, produce outstanding offspring who then study med or law and the cycle also continue this way
such is life really
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| Today 08:19 PM |
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Education content rarely updated. Teachers just memorize and teach. Thats jt.
Mark some papers then get aim for promotion. Easy .
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yeah lor so good hor? go try lor.
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| Today 07:28 PM |
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I find it extremely insulting that hardworking and experienced teachers need to report to young non-teachers in the policy wings.
Shouldn't teachers, with our wealth of ground experience, be in charge of the policy wings? Senior Teachers should be the DDs at policy wings, and the non-teachers should just remain as officers unless they convert to EOs and gain ground experience.
Has anyone worked at the policy wings before? Are the young non-teachers occupying the DD and AD positions any good?
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You don’t sound like an EO colleague and I hope you’re not posting only to stir up unnecessary drama. To start with, STs are two steps below DD. The equivalent to DD is MTT.
Yes we have a lot of ground experience but that does not translate automatically to policymaking expertise. Like it or not, if you choose to take up a policy role, you are starting from scratch alongside direct hires on the MX scale. It’s normal to report to ADs and DDs who have been in the line and have greater domain knowledge. The track you seek to pursue thereafter (extend HQ stint, convert to MX, return to SD) is up to you.
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| Today 07:06 PM |
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I would guess yes, that would be the case - but I've never been an SL, so this is just a guess on my part.
Logically though, if say the HOD/HUM has no Geog expertise, but the YH is able to help with that… there will be less need to raise a SH/Geog?
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Depends. YH is a very taxing job, it would be very challenging for the YH to take on some of the SH IP task. In such instances, it would be likely that an SH/Geog would be needed.
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| Today 07:00 PM |
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why are teachers not prioritised in Policy Wing?
I find it extremely insulting that hardworking and experienced teachers need to report to young non-teachers in the policy wings.
Shouldn't teachers, with our wealth of ground experience, be in charge of the policy wings? Senior Teachers should be the DDs at policy wings, and the non-teachers should just remain as officers unless they convert to EOs and gain ground experience.
Has anyone worked at the policy wings before? Are the young non-teachers occupying the DD and AD positions any good?
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| Today 02:24 PM |
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Teacher easy job
Education content rarely updated. Teachers just memorize and teach. Thats jt.
Mark some papers then get aim for promotion. Easy .
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| Today 10:27 AM |
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Does this mean that, if a department already has many different (IP and non IP) KPs in there e.g. half of the department is made up of KPs, it is less likely for the younger teachers in that department to obtain a KP position?
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I would guess yes, that would be the case - but I've never been an SL, so this is just a guess on my part.
Logically though, if say the HOD/HUM has no Geog expertise, but the YH is able to help with that… there will be less need to raise a SH/Geog?
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| Today 09:44 AM |
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As an earlier poster commented, it's pretty much how the SLs choose to utilise KP positions.
For example, another factor they might consider would be distribution of non-IP KP - if the YHs and AYHs belong to other departments, for instance, it might not be uncommon for additional IP SHs to be raised to help even it out among the school's departments.
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Does this mean that, if a department already has many different (IP and non IP) KPs in there e.g. half of the department is made up of KPs, it is less likely for the younger teachers in that department to obtain a KP position?
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| Today 02:09 AM |
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Twa+
Thank you very much to the poster who shared on their TWA+ experience. It's a honest and clear opinion that provides good info. A couple follow up questions (for OP or anyone else who has done TWA+):
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1. Exposure to a completely new sector
The place I did my TWA at had no direct link to education (people I met there kept gawking at me like I was an alien when I introduced myself as a teacher). But I had the chance to glimpse the work and was challenged (in a kind manner) to contribute during meetings even though I was a total newbie. As a result, I learnt a lot about that sector in a way I could never have otherwise.
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In the TWA+, were you tasked to contribute deliverables or work on any team projects? Or was it really an exposure exercise? I understand that since our tenure may only be a few weeks, it's hard for team leads in partner orgs to meaningfully task and deploy us.
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To answer yr qn about managing workload, my RO basically told me I could only go at EOY after exams as it would be difficult to find a covering teacher for my classes. So I actually applied outside of the advertised TWA window which meant I entered during a lull period in the TWA organisation. So timing is a factor you may consider.. and there might be practical constraints depending on yr school. But I know of ppl who went for TWA in the middle of Term 1 and Term 2 so it's definitely not impossible.
Hope this helps
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For the application outside TWA+ window, is there a separate process from the info provided via CES? In the case described above, I assume also that you went in the post-exam period and prior to PVT - does your dept still task you with marking of EOY papers? And, did you have to forecast your planned TWA+ period far in advance since most of us are down for national exam duties in post-EOY period too? Thanks!
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| Today 12:05 AM |
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For EO grade/school ranks, try searching for the salary scales on this thread. It's a bit difficult to say things like 'SEO3 = VP' because, while often true, a VP can technically be promoted to superscale. Similarly, a senior HOD can be promoted to SEO3.
For pegging with HQ roles, it's roughly there - except EOs seldom take on 'manager' roles in HQ. In the professional wing at least, it's all flattened to Officers (for GEO) and Senior Officers (for SEO), which are all equivalent to SEO1 'estab'.
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Thanks very much 
I have an older cousin, not in the education service, but is a DD in MOE HQ. I guess he's VP-equivalent then 
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