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26-12-2013 01:29 PM
Unregistered If you or your friend so skilled & knowledgeable ... go join a poly or Uni. No need to post in this forum. Only people who cannot go anywhere then put up such irresponsible posts with grammatical errors.

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Originally Posted by wingzero View Post
Hi Peeps

I have notice that ITE have PREFER to recruit people with Airforce experience and you need degree too so that you can be called up for interview. Those with airforce experience, ITE pay them good salary between $3.8K to $7.5K. This is the news i received from my insider sources.

But i got some colleagues who degree and got aircraft maintenance licence but no Airforce Experience was either offer below $3.8K or $4K FLAT.

At least 90 percent of the ITE Aerospace/Avionics Lecturer Jobs were given to ex-airforce personnel plus better salary over CAAS aircraft maintenance licence holder. Really sad case, it seems to me that the Section Head who also from Airforce rather choose his ex-comrades than the real deal who sign aircrafts.

When you compare experiences, both are almost similar in years of experience but comes to commercial aircraft the CAAS aircraft maintenance licence holder are the people with most knowledge who do the job.

Airforce people repair military planes (No Future) that is the main reason they left. Oh they don't need licence to sign aircraft and no need to take CAAS Exam to pass.
21-12-2013 05:25 PM
Unregistered A lot of green eyes monster here. What a shame...
13-11-2013 03:31 PM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by hello! View Post
I teach in ITE for close to 3 years.

i've wanted to teach ever since i'm in the uni becos i'm an idealist and feel that i can make a difference to the lives of others, for the better of course.

anyway, after 7 years in my field in the industry, I decided to try to apply for a lecturing position in ITE. my decision to leave the industry is simple, i'm chasing an earlier dream of mine, coupled with the fact that I wanted a work-life balance.

after going through 5 rounds of informal and formal interviews, I was finally offered the contract. however, i've to accept a significant pay cut to the tune of S$800/. this simply meant that I must re-organise my lifestyle and adapt accordingly.

i accepted the offer and was sent on course to learn how to be a more effective lecturer. I was worried that the students might come to school with bicycle chains and the likes, simply looking for trouble but was reassured that the students are very much mellowed and different.

ITE today is no longer the ITE of yesteryears. the students are more studious and are generally very well behaved. in my close to 3 years, i've not witnessed any gang related activities, fights and even outright discipline issues with students. i've never seen nor heard of any incident whereby a student is rude to his/her teacher. there might be but i've not seen.

from my own point of view, i realised that there is no greater job satisfaction than having your past students visit you, thank you for your help and finding out that they are doing well in their present workplace/school.

if you are thinking of earning big $$, then teaching is definitely not the one for you. the bonuses and such are alrite, nothing fantastic. i'm nowhere nearer to my previous pay after close to 3 years but i'm VERY happy to be able to teach, guide and even inspire some of my students.

best of all, the discussion among lecturers is always about how best to help certain student, how best to deliver lessons etc. as compared to my past experiences in the industry where we only talk about how much $$ we can earn, how much to charge and even office politics. not saying that there isn't office politics but it is way lesser.


if your aim is to help, nurture and care for the younger generation, then maybe teaching might be your cup of tea.

i look forward to school every day. can't say the same in my old line.

if anyone of you need further clarifications on teaching life in ITE, feel free to ask in this forum. i will reply when I read it.
Hi "hello!"

Your experience is indeed inspiring to all who are considering a switch to teaching. Do you mind sharing:

1. Your industry and qualifications before joining ITE
2. Age range
3. Onboarding process
4. Typical work day
5. Culture and environment
6. Staff professional development
7. Bad points about the job (you have only mentioned good points )

Thank you
12-11-2013 12:00 PM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by hello! View Post
I teach in ITE for close to 3 years.

i've wanted to teach ever since i'm in the uni becos i'm an idealist and feel that i can make a difference to the lives of others, for the better of course.

anyway, after 7 years in my field in the industry, I decided to try to apply for a lecturing position in ITE. my decision to leave the industry is simple, i'm chasing an earlier dream of mine, coupled with the fact that I wanted a work-life balance.

after going through 5 rounds of informal and formal interviews, I was finally offered the contract. however, i've to accept a significant pay cut to the tune of S$800/. this simply meant that I must re-organise my lifestyle and adapt accordingly.

i accepted the offer and was sent on course to learn how to be a more effective lecturer. I was worried that the students might come to school with bicycle chains and the likes, simply looking for trouble but was reassured that the students are very much mellowed and different.

ITE today is no longer the ITE of yesteryears. the students are more studious and are generally very well behaved. in my close to 3 years, i've not witnessed any gang related activities, fights and even outright discipline issues with students. i've never seen nor heard of any incident whereby a student is rude to his/her teacher. there might be but i've not seen.

from my own point of view, i realised that there is no greater job satisfaction than having your past students visit you, thank you for your help and finding out that they are doing well in their present workplace/school.

if you are thinking of earning big $$, then teaching is definitely not the one for you. the bonuses and such are alrite, nothing fantastic. i'm nowhere nearer to my previous pay after close to 3 years but i'm VERY happy to be able to teach, guide and even inspire some of my students.

best of all, the discussion among lecturers is always about how best to help certain student, how best to deliver lessons etc. as compared to my past experiences in the industry where we only talk about how much $$ we can earn, how much to charge and even office politics. not saying that there isn't office politics but it is way lesser.


if your aim is to help, nurture and care for the younger generation, then maybe teaching might be your cup of tea.

i look forward to school every day. can't say the same in my old line.

if anyone of you need further clarifications on teaching life in ITE, feel free to ask in this forum. i will reply when I read it.

Hi, thank you for sharing your experiences as a lecturer in ite. I am happy for you and others who have found joy in their career.

For me, I am looking for a mid-career change after working as an engineer for 10 years. I would very much like to embark on teaching as a career as it has been my childhood aspiration to become a teacher. I hv just attended an interview with ite for the post of a lecturer. Everything seemed to have gone well and now I am hoping for a favorable reply from the HR.

One concern I have on my mind is that although I may have done academically well in my masters degree, I have a D7 for my o'levels English back then. Do you think they will reject me due to this? Or would they consider relevant industrial experiences along with degree qualification is more vital in their consideration for the post of a lecturer in ite?

I would really appreciate if you could give me some advices on this. The waiting for their reply is agonizing....
22-04-2013 12:54 PM
losthope
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I will be more specific. If a person is currently earning $15K per month, I don't suppose ITE will even consider him/her? As far as teaching staff salaries go, I am guessing the guy if he is offered will face more than 60% pay reduction.

I hope that ITE will not discriminate against such applicants. Like yourself, they may have harbored a love for teaching, but decided to build their nest egg first in the industry before pursuing their first love. This is pretty common in the developed countries where older & experienced professionals become educators in the last leg of their working lives.
As mentioned, I started as a Technician 20 years ago and work my way up to the current Manager position. I interact with Technician, Engineering Assistant, Engineers from various dept and felt that I can provide my 2-cent to those (ITE student) who really want to make something out from the ITE.
20-04-2013 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hello! View Post
hmmm... they will request for your last payslip, i can't recall but I think they will request for your CPF slip, just to confirm your last drawn pay etc. sorry, I can't recall this part well as it has been some years.

then they will try to match ur pay in a seperate interview with the HR.

my fellow colleague was given an even more significant pay-cut, so much so that he rejected the contract. HR got in touch with him a 2nd time with an 'improved' offer and he signed. he didn't divulge to me the amount but if you are already earning quite a substantial pay in the corporate world, it is very likely that the teaching profession might not be able to match your current pay, unless we are talking about the Unis.

i've heard of bigger pay-cut for those who used to be 'bankers', auditors, etc. who got tired of the corporate world and made a mid-career switch to teaching in the local pri/secondary/JC schools. their pay-cut is just as significant, if not, more.

HR will try to convince you that in the public service sector, we have this number of bonuses per year, the benefits etc. if you are comfortable, then accept it.

once you are in the school, you will be sent for a pedagogic course on how to conduct lesson etc, which will run for some 3 weeks. you'll get a cert at the end of it.

ITE has many benefits and the school cares for its staff. If i'm not wrong, it is one of the top 10 employer last year. build a strong rapport with your students and you will definitely enjoy teaching in ITE, if your passion is in teaching.

if you're keen and there's an opening in your area of expertise, do write in and I wish you all the best!


oh, you can use the gyms, the swimming pool, the badminton courts, the running track etc. to keep fit and healthy.
I will be more specific. If a person is currently earning $15K per month, I don't suppose ITE will even consider him/her? As far as teaching staff salaries go, I am guessing the guy if he is offered will face more than 60% pay reduction.

I hope that ITE will not discriminate against such applicants. Like yourself, they may have harbored a love for teaching, but decided to build their nest egg first in the industry before pursuing their first love. This is pretty common in the developed countries where older & experienced professionals become educators in the last leg of their working lives.
19-04-2013 10:08 PM
hello!
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Originally Posted by losthope View Post
Thanks for the reply, appreciated!
Regarding your reply on Salary, HR will try matching with your current pay even if you are a "newcomer" with no teaching experience? I accumulated more then 10 yrs working experience as an Engineer in an MNC so you think ITE/HR will still try an match my current pay? I am expecting some paycut but not know to what extend.
hmmm... they will request for your last payslip, i can't recall but I think they will request for your CPF slip, just to confirm your last drawn pay etc. sorry, I can't recall this part well as it has been some years.

then they will try to match ur pay in a seperate interview with the HR.

my fellow colleague was given an even more significant pay-cut, so much so that he rejected the contract. HR got in touch with him a 2nd time with an 'improved' offer and he signed. he didn't divulge to me the amount but if you are already earning quite a substantial pay in the corporate world, it is very likely that the teaching profession might not be able to match your current pay, unless we are talking about the Unis.

i've heard of bigger pay-cut for those who used to be 'bankers', auditors, etc. who got tired of the corporate world and made a mid-career switch to teaching in the local pri/secondary/JC schools. their pay-cut is just as significant, if not, more.

HR will try to convince you that in the public service sector, we have this number of bonuses per year, the benefits etc. if you are comfortable, then accept it.

once you are in the school, you will be sent for a pedagogic course on how to conduct lesson etc, which will run for some 3 weeks. you'll get a cert at the end of it.

ITE has many benefits and the school cares for its staff. If i'm not wrong, it is one of the top 10 employer last year. build a strong rapport with your students and you will definitely enjoy teaching in ITE, if your passion is in teaching.

if you're keen and there's an opening in your area of expertise, do write in and I wish you all the best!


oh, you can use the gyms, the swimming pool, the badminton courts, the running track etc. to keep fit and healthy.
19-04-2013 10:54 AM
losthope
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Originally Posted by hello! View Post
working hours is flexible. I find it hard to answer you but let's quote an example:

on Mondays, my class starts at 9am. try to be in school by 830am, giving yourself at least 1/2 an hour to prepare and set up for the lesson. i'm normally in school by 8am.

depending on your time schedule, your day could end at 3pm. by 'end', I meant to say that there is no more class and you might want to spend some time doing admin and paperwork.

I normally leave the school at around 6pm, after clearing emails and finishing with my paperwork.



CCA:

you can choose to join any established CCA as a helper/co-ordinator or you can come up with your own CCA. you can choose not to join and concentrate on your teaching. its up to each individual.


Salary:

as mentioned previously in my reply, the HR will try to match your current pay.


all newcomers are on 2 or 3 years contract and if your performance is not up to par, you will not be rewarded with a re-contract.


annual leave is 21 days. you can clear your leave during school holidays.
Thanks for the reply, appreciated!
Regarding your reply on Salary, HR will try matching with your current pay even if you are a "newcomer" with no teaching experience? I accumulated more then 10 yrs working experience as an Engineer in an MNC so you think ITE/HR will still try an match my current pay? I am expecting some paycut but not know to what extend.
18-04-2013 10:27 PM
hello!
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Originally Posted by losthope View Post
Hi, I am interested in teaching in ITE and would like to know more i.e. work hours, "ECA", salary & etc. Is there anyway that I can contact you other than through this forum? i.e. email?
working hours is flexible. I find it hard to answer you but let's quote an example:

on Mondays, my class starts at 9am. try to be in school by 830am, giving yourself at least 1/2 an hour to prepare and set up for the lesson. i'm normally in school by 8am.

depending on your time schedule, your day could end at 3pm. by 'end', I meant to say that there is no more class and you might want to spend some time doing admin and paperwork.

I normally leave the school at around 6pm, after clearing emails and finishing with my paperwork.



CCA:

you can choose to join any established CCA as a helper/co-ordinator or you can come up with your own CCA. you can choose not to join and concentrate on your teaching. its up to each individual.


Salary:

as mentioned previously in my reply, the HR will try to match your current pay.


all newcomers are on 2 or 3 years contract and if your performance is not up to par, you will not be rewarded with a re-contract.


annual leave is 21 days. you can clear your leave during school holidays.
18-04-2013 10:16 PM
hello!
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Originally Posted by Curious? View Post
I though usually they will match your pay of give you a couple of hundreds more???

Unless the amount you earned outside includes sales commission, OT and allowances like transport???

Wonder when rationale does one go through to make the difficult decision of accepting a pay cut?

Any comments?
they will try to match and depending on the current pay you're drawing and if it falls within their pay structure, then they will most likely match your pay or in some cases, give you slightly more than your current pay.

it depends on the HR.

taking a pay cut in exchange for free weekends, more time for friends and family even in weekdays, no more O.T and probably doing something that I like to do, in my instance, teaching, why not?


no more returning home at 10pm+, where the children have slept, little time to talk to parents, to wife...

can afford to take leave twice a year and go travel with the family...

meet up with wife and friend and go for a drink/meal on weekday evenings...

go picnic on Saturdays and on days when I have no lesson, I can take leave and spend the day with my children, taking them to school... having lunch with them, taking them for their swimming lesson...

in short, watching them grow up.



i don't know about you but when I was in the corporate world, it is almost impossible to do some of the things listed due to heavy workload. perhaps some of you are in the same shoes as I once was. maybe some of you are happy with the way your life maps out.

regardless, one man's meat is another's poison. this is my chosen path and i'm glad.





a word of caution, newcomers are all on contract, 2 years or 3 and it is imperative that we perform or our contract will not be renewed.


thanks for reading. =)
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