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12-02-2012 10:48 PM
Anonymous
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Originally Posted by PaycheckSG View Post
It is a half-truth as within each grade, there are sub-grade for promotion.
That is just a 2/3 salary bar, not a promotion.
12-02-2012 05:14 PM
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Chances ae you can only get jump + promotion not more than 5 times in your lifetime. Non-scholars in government promote on average 3 times in their lives.
I have 4 such jumps in my salary:

1. change job - 39% (age 30)
2. change job - 35% (age 34)
3. promotion - 26% (age 37)
4. promotion - 25% (age 40)

Does it mean I have only one more time for such jump/promotion?
12-02-2012 02:04 PM
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It is a half-truth as within each grade, there are sub-grade for promotion.
No, from the Civil Service point of view, only a change in grade is promotion. What sometimes the HR and boss try to do is to create "fake" promotions to try and retain long serving staff who have maxed out on their grade and try to motivate the youngsters by giving them impression of rapid career progression. That's why have all these sub-grade nonsense.

Sub-grades are fake and not recognized outside of a specific ministry, i.e. you can't claim that you are now a high MX11 from MTI and want to transfer to a low MX10 in MFA. They will tell you to fly kite and say MX11 is MX11, MX10 is MX10. You either qualify to move to MX10 or you don't.

Sub-grades are also not practiced consistently and some ministries have more while others don't have at all.
12-02-2012 12:17 AM
PaycheckSG
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Just need to put a few facts together to know you are wrong. It was announced recently that on average, 1-2% of MXes are superscalers. i.e. 98% max out at MX10 at most. From mx13-10 is 3 promotions. QED.
It is a half-truth as within each grade, there are sub-grade for promotion.
08-02-2012 01:04 PM
toottoot the last i tried, i asked for 15% and they gave me 12% . any other tactic to use? please, throw resignation letter is not a tactic
07-02-2012 11:43 PM
Anonymous
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How much you ask for is dependent on how much value you believe you can contribute to the job role.

My personal take is if you are a good candidate, as long as what you ask for falls within the HRs salary band, the hiring manager will do what is necessary to get you in.

As to the amount of time non-scholars get to promote in the government sector, I believe that average is grossly out of mark.

If you talking about title promotion, 1) Executive 2) Senior Executive 3) Manager, makes more sense.

But if its salary grade promotion, definitely more than 3.
Just need to put a few facts together to know you are wrong. It was announced recently that on average, 1-2% of MXes are superscalers. i.e. 98% max out at MX10 at most. From mx13-10 is 3 promotions. QED.
07-02-2012 09:08 PM
PaycheckSG How much you ask for is dependent on how much value you believe you can contribute to the job role.

My personal take is if you are a good candidate, as long as what you ask for falls within the HRs salary band, the hiring manager will do what is necessary to get you in.

As to the amount of time non-scholars get to promote in the government sector, I believe that average is grossly out of mark.

If you talking about title promotion, 1) Executive 2) Senior Executive 3) Manager, makes more sense.

But if its salary grade promotion, definitely more than 3.
07-02-2012 08:05 PM
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Hmm.... that means I only need 12 such hops to reach ministerial pay haha

1 $40,000
2 $54,000
3 $72,900
4 $98,415
5 $132,860
6 $179,361
7 $242,138
8 $326,886
9 $441,296
10 $595,750
11 $804,262
12 $1,085,754
Chances ae you can only get jump + promotion not more than 5 times in your lifetime. Non-scholars in government promote on average 3 times in their lives.
07-02-2012 04:33 PM
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Minimum 25%, if role is bigger and more senior dont settle for anything less than 35%
Hmm.... that means I only need 12 such hops to reach ministerial pay haha

1 $40,000
2 $54,000
3 $72,900
4 $98,415
5 $132,860
6 $179,361
7 $242,138
8 $326,886
9 $441,296
10 $595,750
11 $804,262
12 $1,085,754
07-02-2012 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by uturn View Post
i.e. when you jump ship say in HR or IT industry
Minimum 25%, if role is bigger and more senior dont settle for anything less than 35%
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