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Yesterday 08:35 PM
Unregistered Is big 4 litigation commercial skills transferrable to inhouse counsel? or should I stick it out to become partner one day?
Yesterday 06:48 PM
Unregistered If you don't make it to a Big 4 and above law firm in terms of prestige and pay, law is not a good career proposition.

Why bother grinding it out in a small or mid-tier local firm for sh**ty bosses and sh**ty clients on uncompetitive pay?

The average junior lawyer is probably smart and hardworking enough to do something non-law-related for better comp. Or get a job which pays around the same comp but for much better WLB. I'm not even exaggerating, quite a no. of my friends who quit law to do other non-law corporate stuff are leapfrogging past their non-lawyer peers. You'll be at least above average to a high performer in those settings. (At least at the junior levels. Above middle manager level, all bets are off.)

So either aim for Big 4 and internationals, or go in-house. If neither of these are attainable/appeal to you, please quit lawyering and do something else.

It's just not worth it to practice law in Singapore lower down the value chain of the industry. That's my advice to juniors going to get called this August.
Yesterday 09:46 AM
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Hey hang in there my learned friend. 2PQE here.

I suffered a similar experience in a firm that I used to work at it. I left, walked out the door on the last day of work when one of the partners screamed and shouted and me for my quality of work and never looked back.

I suffered severe anxiety when hearing a phone call or email notification. The partner I worked for accused me of many things for being incompetent, unmotivated without giving any guidance to me.

The opportunity came, and I am happy at a much better firm, more prestigious than the dump I used to be at, doing what I like, and am recovering from the psychological damage caused by the failed move I made.

Your self worth is not defined by what a partner screams/shouts at you about.

Defend yourself and make sure you cover all grounds in your work. Sometimes its the partner that is incompetent and not you. Don't give yourself an opportunity to get barked at. But be professional. No banging tables, fridges, throwing chairs.

Don't be afraid and start looking elsewhere. It is not normal to get yelled at. Find an exit plan before leaving. Do your due diligence carefully.

If the firm is on a perpetual recruitment drive, Trainees quit after their TC and Associates leave after very short stints or less than a year or two, that's a red flag.

It really also largely hinges upon luck.
really nice to see such encouraging posts here for a change. thank you.
Yesterday 08:43 AM
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Stay strong OP

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What are professional responses to a partner yelling at you in person?

Or tips to fake confidence when getting yelled at? I have a partner that nothing I do is right.

She called and yelled at me yesterday and I had to hang up the phone on her because I was going to start crying.

Iím just nervous how to act in person now.

He undermines everything I do/say and as a new lawyer I donít have a lot of confidence on what to say back to her .

What are some good responses that are still professional to say to an angry partner ?

I donít have experience getting yelled at by people in law school. This is my first job since graduation.

Also is it normal to get yelled at? If so, then I may not switch to another firm. I will just quit practice for good.

Hey hang in there my learned friend. 2PQE here.

I suffered a similar experience in a firm that I used to work at it. I left, walked out the door on the last day of work when one of the partners screamed and shouted and me for my quality of work and never looked back.

I suffered severe anxiety when hearing a phone call or email notification. The partner I worked for accused me of many things for being incompetent, unmotivated without giving any guidance to me.

The opportunity came, and I am happy at a much better firm, more prestigious than the dump I used to be at, doing what I like, and am recovering from the psychological damage caused by the failed move I made.

Your self worth is not defined by what a partner screams/shouts at you about.

Defend yourself and make sure you cover all grounds in your work. Sometimes its the partner that is incompetent and not you. Don't give yourself an opportunity to get barked at. But be professional. No banging tables, fridges, throwing chairs.

Don't be afraid and start looking elsewhere. It is not normal to get yelled at. Find an exit plan before leaving. Do your due diligence carefully.

If the firm is on a perpetual recruitment drive, Trainees quit after their TC and Associates leave after very short stints or less than a year or two, that's a red flag.

It really also largely hinges upon luck.
12-08-2022 09:39 PM
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Well, i guess we will now. hahaha.
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12-08-2022 05:35 PM
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Instead of posting here on this forum without proper threads/replies/likes etc. Why donít we all just use the fish bowl app? US/London lawyers use it exactly like what we are doing here but better interface, etc. There is a singapore law thread but none of us uses it!
Well, i guess we will now. hahaha.
12-08-2022 01:38 PM
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What is the starting salary for drew and napier?
$7500 for 1PQE (4 months after Aug mass call).
12-08-2022 12:44 PM
Unregistered Many aspiring law undergraduates or Part A/B candidates always think that academics is very important in practice but in reality, it plays a secondary role.

There are two things you need to have for practice:

1. Client Management - You have to manage clients' expectations, learn to be firm with clients (setting boundaries) and always remember, collect fees beforehand. Many clients will request you to do many but "act blur" when its payment time. Admittedly, easier said than done and even some partners still fail at it, given that Singaporeans are the non-confrontational type.


2. Thick Skin - Especially for litigation. Prepare to get scolded by the judiciary if you can't meet timelines (sometimes at no fault of your own). Also, by demanding clients who think they own you just because they paid a paltry deposit.


If you can master these two things, you can survive in practice. If not, good luck.
12-08-2022 12:34 PM
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Fish bowl?

Instead of posting here on this forum without proper threads/replies/likes etc. Why donít we all just use the fish bowl app? US/London lawyers use it exactly like what we are doing here but better interface, etc. There is a singapore law thread but none of us uses it!
12-08-2022 10:21 AM
Unregistered What is the starting salary for drew and napier?
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