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Yesterday 07:35 PM
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Erm hello you don't even know how to draw 3 vertices to form a triangle using opengl or directx, you got what expertise to do a graphic intensive solution.

You know how to do billboard or not.
You know how to write HLSL shader effect or not.

Oh oh you only know how to do storyboard its like this.
This move here. Then this...

This is a system designer? An architect?

Employ this kind to build house, house will collapse.
Employ to architect a system.
Don't even know how to use preprocessor directive to control whether opengl or directx.
Dont even know how to troubleshoot memory leak.

Yeah sure drow two box. This box call system A the other box call system B. Draw arrow connect.

Yeah that's your system architect la....
Preprocessor directive is when I tell the auntie kopi GAO
Yesterday 02:33 PM
Unregistered
Dumbass

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"Don't need to know 100%. Roughly know the architect 30%, can liao.
You are more to coordination and planning"
Erm hello you don't even know how to draw 3 vertices to form a triangle using opengl or directx, you got what expertise to do a graphic intensive solution.

You know how to do billboard or not.
You know how to write HLSL shader effect or not.

Oh oh you only know how to do storyboard its like this.
This move here. Then this...

This is a system designer? An architect?

Employ this kind to build house, house will collapse.
Employ to architect a system.
Don't even know how to use preprocessor directive to control whether opengl or directx.
Dont even know how to troubleshoot memory leak.

Yeah sure drow two box. This box call system A the other box call system B. Draw arrow connect.

Yeah that's your system architect la....
Yesterday 12:18 PM
Unregistered
Quit fast

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Outsourced staff are always at the losing end. Doing the most work but getting a lower salary and having the least benefits. Until now the management has no clue why the turnover for outsourced staff in some divisions are extremely fast.
Funny how a division end up with just managers who no engineering skills.
Promote those ppl who suck up to boss.

All the talent left.
Then project can't run without people doing the work.
So they hire cheap outsource to do the work and let the perm manager manage.

Outsource do all the work. No conversion. No promotion. Increment is standard 3% already allocated on budget before hiring. Do more bonus same
Do less also same.

People stay 1 to 2 years quit.
Project recycled to a new batch of outsource.
Perm M1 promoted to M2.
Reorg again, M2 pulled to another division by boss. Promoted to M3.

Project recycled again under new boss.
The same circle continue. No senior management retire or quit.
But keep going up higher.
Yesterday 11:47 AM
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Lets see.
We have a system architect M3 that have 15 years of doing tender.
But have no real software project under his belt. No software technical skills.
Can't do proof of concept. Can't develop demo. Can't even interview and access whether a software developer is good or bad...

We have one M2 who is basically doing the job for this M3. But mostly PowerPoint.
Demo is PowerPoint. Some diagram of schedule. Again no software code.
Don't even know how to open netbeans or visual studio.

We have two M1 who is basically just meeting with customer to gather requirements.
Come back they ask their secretary E5 to type out. So basically it's they call meeting meet customer Monday.
Come back Tuesday to Friday is hold internal meeting with their engineer and dictate and discuss..
The E5 just type what they say. .. Then vet or approve the document and comment this and that...

That's it

Then we have one outsource E6 who is so fed up with all the useless people that he just take his time to do slowly cause everyone. Including the boss know he is the only one developing.

Then we have 3 E5 including myself... Who just learning. And helping out.
Fixing minor bugs. Reading and trying to understanding old code... Not much help...

I also don't see a future here.
"Don't need to know 100%. Roughly know the architect 30%, can liao.
You are more to coordination and planning"
Yesterday 09:53 AM
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Lets see.
We have a system architect M3 that have 15 years of doing tender.
But have no real software project under his belt. No software technical skills.
Can't do proof of concept. Can't develop demo. Can't even interview and access whether a software developer is good or bad...

We have one M2 who is basically doing the job for this M3. But mostly PowerPoint.
Demo is PowerPoint. Some diagram of schedule. Again no software code.
Don't even know how to open netbeans or visual studio.

We have two M1 who is basically just meeting with customer to gather requirements.
Come back they ask their secretary E5 to type out. So basically it's they call meeting meet customer Monday.
Come back Tuesday to Friday is hold internal meeting with their engineer and dictate and discuss..
The E5 just type what they say. .. Then vet or approve the document and comment this and that...

That's it

Then we have one outsource E6 who is so fed up with all the useless people that he just take his time to do slowly cause everyone. Including the boss know he is the only one developing.

Then we have 3 E5 including myself... Who just learning. And helping out.
Fixing minor bugs. Reading and trying to understanding old code... Not much help...

I also don't see a future here.
Outsourced staff are always at the losing end. Doing the most work but getting a lower salary and having the least benefits. Until now the management has no clue why the turnover for outsourced staff in some divisions are extremely fast.
Yesterday 09:50 AM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Lets see.
We have a system architect M3 that have 15 years of doing tender.
But have no real software project under his belt. No software technical skills.
Can't do proof of concept. Can't develop demo. Can't even interview and access whether a software developer is good or bad...

We have one M2 who is basically doing the job for this M3. But mostly PowerPoint.
Demo is PowerPoint. Some diagram of schedule. Again no software code.
Don't even know how to open netbeans or visual studio.

We have two M1 who is basically just meeting with customer to gather requirements.
Come back they ask their secretary E5 to type out. So basically it's they call meeting meet customer Monday.
Come back Tuesday to Friday is hold internal meeting with their engineer and dictate and discuss..
The E5 just type what they say. .. Then vet or approve the document and comment this and that...

That's it

Then we have one outsource E6 who is so fed up with all the useless people that he just take his time to do slowly cause everyone. Including the boss know he is the only one developing.

Then we have 3 E5 including myself... Who just learning. And helping out.
Fixing minor bugs. Reading and trying to understanding old code... Not much help...

I also don't see a future here.
Looks like things haven't changed a bit.
Yesterday 09:50 AM
Unregistered
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Yet alot of projects can't move until they hire an outsource staff to do the work...

Alot of dead weight in this company
And the outsourced staff get no benefits like perm staff.
Yesterday 09:49 AM
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even if have salary revision, they only revise the starting salary for fresh grad, and almost non-existence salary revision for those E6 and above, and that's why we often heard fresh grad getting more salary than those experience E6 or M1 with 5 or more year of experience with ST....
Yes. When I was ST, they gathered everyone to announce the new salary package which is literally the same pay with nicer looking basic salary. When asked if the adjustment is also applicable to existing engineers the big boss came and gave us a dressing down instead.
17-08-2022 10:45 PM
Unregistered
Boring

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even if have salary revision, they only revise the starting salary for fresh grad, and almost non-existence salary revision for those E6 and above, and that's why we often heard fresh grad getting more salary than those experience E6 or M1 with 5 or more year of experience with ST....
Revise is only fresh grad and senior management la.
17-08-2022 10:36 PM
Unregistered
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Ya lor, gov sector have salary revision but here still dun have
even if have salary revision, they only revise the starting salary for fresh grad, and almost non-existence salary revision for those E6 and above, and that's why we often heard fresh grad getting more salary than those experience E6 or M1 with 5 or more year of experience with ST....
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