| Today 11:56 AM |
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firstly idgaf about the industry or audit quality. i just dont wanna work with shitty people with shitty skills. sufficient enough reason to oppose rma and recognition of subpar international crap
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Fully support. It just dont make sense. Ppl are moving forward but accountants are going backwards.
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| Today 11:42 AM |
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if you are a good auditor you will realise that for this to happen, the industry must have let it happen, if audit quality was really so important everyone would have prevented it from happening. fact is, the audit partners margins were more important, and thus, this is the consequence. theres no reason for you to be salty. supply simply just met demand.
and to the previous guy talking about RMA, not sure whats the purpose since that is only relevant if you want to be a public accountant. But anyway that can make a sweeping statement like that will probably not even get any referees to be come a PA
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firstly idgaf about the industry or audit quality. i just dont wanna work with shitty people with shitty skills. sufficient enough reason to oppose rma and recognition of subpar international crap
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| Today 11:40 AM |
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I will report you to police. I can file a police report for your post here.
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wah im so terrified! go file la. hurt your fragile feelings cus your fragile self ego got broken when you feel exposed by the fact that you are a local uni reject, run to private uni become an acca dogs have shitty language and technical skills?
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| Today 10:54 AM |
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If you look at Hong Kong
HongKong ICPA they sign MRA with ACCA
But ACCA member just need clear Hong Kong Capstone 4 hours paper
If you look at CA ANZ (Australia New Zealand)
They have RMA with ACCA FCCA
Then funny is
ISCA RMA with CA ANZ
CA ANZ RMA with ACCA
BUT ISCA AND ACCA NO RMA
LOL
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Not so ez as u think. All these rma mra or whatever a requires members to continue to be active for both license. They want the $$. If u are a active member to events or con, they know the problem but no action. Lol.
Keep on saying work life balance is bad, pay is bad, want to improve quality
but no action. They just want to lock u in the pipeline. They data they share not even usedul
How many ca in big, mid and small firm.
How many local and
what are the work force in the industry.
Firm just hire anyone. Dont join this industry!
They keep on saying what accountants want, do they even know whether the public need all these crap?
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| Today 10:31 AM |
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You are talking abt pre-scaq things now leh. Those days when such rma/mra with acca/cpa aus, the local uni grads were also seen equally can get CA sg after 5day PAC and any 3 yrs working experience. It was so much leveled playing field. Now we are asking local uni grad to chiong scaq w 3 yrs fixated ATO with very limited exemptions, while cpa aust grads just need clear 1 capstone for scaq to get CA sg.
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If you look at Hong Kong
HongKong ICPA they sign MRA with ACCA
But ACCA member just need clear Hong Kong Capstone 4 hours paper
If you look at CA ANZ (Australia New Zealand)
They have RMA with ACCA FCCA
Then funny is
ISCA RMA with CA ANZ
CA ANZ RMA with ACCA
BUT ISCA AND ACCA NO RMA
LOL
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| Today 10:27 AM |
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Yup, fair meh? If im cpa aus grad I sure think its very fair la. Spent sch fee anurs-4 yrs to go local uni, grad liao come out they say cpa aus got rma while Local uni grad take full scaq. Lol.
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No need try to stir sai or stir resentment against ACCA members
ISCA would have thought of all these
They already close the loop for ACCA members who try to game system by jumping to ICAEW then jumping to ISCA Before even signing RMA with ICAEW
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| Today 10:25 AM |
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Yup, fair meh? If im cpa aus grad I sure think its very fair la. Spent sch fee anurs-4 yrs to go local uni, grad liao come out they say cpa aus got rma while Local uni grad take full scaq. Lol.
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Lame lah u
U think Isca never thought of these sort of resentment and grieving sentiment meh
They are giving local uni graduate accelerated pathway
Check out their Facebook page about the local uni accelerated pathway
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| Today 10:23 AM |
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You are talking abt pre-scaq things now leh. Those days when such rma/mra with acca/cpa aus, the local uni grads were also seen equally can get CA sg after 5day PAC and any 3 yrs working experience. It was so much leveled playing field. Now we are asking local uni grad to chiong scaq w 3 yrs fixated ATO with very limited exemptions, while cpa aust grads just need clear 1 capstone for scaq to get CA sg.
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In future, the local uni graduate can be exempt with 2 modules and they can take 2 modules of SCAQ during their university days. So 4 papers gao dim liao
So ok what? After graduating, just join ATO 3 years...then take Capstone paper gao dim liao mah.. settled.
Get ISCA CA liao
Of course those past 11 years local uni graduate suffer lah...no choice mah
Now they realise ACCA members all resigning from audit industry in SME audit since no future to get PA LICENSE...then partner all suffer have to do vouching themselves lol...or the audit cases just keep delaying
Maybe because of COVID?
Cannot be narrow minded lah
U see ISCA Accountancy Hub ....got so many different accounting bodies
Is open to all
ISCA also sign MOU with India and Philippines leh
We are like competing with nearby countries to see who cheaper
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| Today 10:16 AM |
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You don't support RMA or MRA because you feel MRA and RMA is unfair to local uni graduate.
Noted.
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Yup, fair meh? If im cpa aus grad I sure think its very fair la. Spent sch fee anurs-4 yrs to go local uni, grad liao come out they say cpa aus got rma while Local uni grad take full scaq. Lol.
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| Today 10:13 AM |
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Lame lah. Local uni grads got so many career options to choose from. If the local uni grads join big4, they only utilise the audit, tax, financial reporting modules they learnt in big4 lor... They can join bank or public sector too.
Audit job is too easy for them.
Whereas ACCA members like us have no choice but to stay in audit or accounting line leh....Cause ACCA members like us will resign from audit and join accounting if we cannot get our ISCA CA to become ACRA PA
RMA is very common mah
ISCA signed RMA and MRA many years
s://isca.org.sg/about-us/about-the-institute-of-singapore-chartered-accountants/our-history
2004: Mutual Recognition Agreement with CPA Australia
The Mutual Recognition Agreement (MRA) between ICPAS and CPA Australia was signed in 2004, offering ICPAS Professional Examinations graduates access to foreign membership.
2005: Mutual Recognition Agreement with the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants
Second MRA with Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (ACCA) signed.
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You are talking abt pre-scaq things now leh. Those days when such rma/mra with acca/cpa aus, the local uni grads were also seen equally can get CA sg after 5day PAC and any 3 yrs working experience. It was so much leveled playing field. Now we are asking local uni grad to chiong scaq w 3 yrs fixated ATO with very limited exemptions, while cpa aust grads just need clear 1 capstone for scaq to get CA sg.
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