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21-08-2021 09:16 PM
Unregistered
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Honestly if I'm a China company and want to setup a HQ in Singapore.
I need a product manager that has connection and get things done in Singapore and take instruction from China.

Why would I hire a fresh grad for this job?

E.g. We need to submit this product for certification.

Fresh grad : OK? What do I need to do.
Me : erm we hire you to manage the product. Can u like take initiative to find out which Singapore board we need. What is the approval process. Form to fill etc.
Fresh grad : erm.

Or...

Me: our Singapore client complain you never meet deadline, the business meeting next week why you not familiar with our product.
Fresh grad : erm nobodu brief me I also don't know our system how it work...

Or...

Me : can you liase with the shipment, we need to send the equipment to Singapore factory. Covid all the restriction, we need to get it thru by end or march... Can you arrange it?
Fresh grad : erm? How? Who do I reach out? Someone help.

No idea why people would hire fresh grad for a position that requires managerial and people skill....

Or..

Me : our Singapore client complain our product no quality can you handle then.
Fresh grad : how???
wtf u talking about u stupid dog, you can't be a company you moron you're a person.

"I'm a China company" wtf lol no brain.
20-08-2021 09:42 AM
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Right skills, connection, luck and growth are important. It depends on which stage of life you are in also and whether you are lucky to have all factors working for you.

Different generations have different minsets & challenges.

Just be kind and humble. You never know when you will need the help of a person who you looked down upon.
Truth be told if it comes to that point you know you are wayyyy up sh*t's creek
20-08-2021 07:50 AM
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Damn amusing how two posters are bragging about 10k and 13k in 20 years when these days we can achieve that in 5-6 years.

Build your skills and niche, know the right people and with enough luck, you can make it anywhere.

Take the position that forces you to grow.
Right skills, connection, luck and growth are important. It depends on which stage of life you are in also and whether you are lucky to have all factors working for you.

Different generations have different minsets & challenges.

Just be kind and humble. You never know when you will need the help of a person who you looked down upon.
20-08-2021 01:49 AM
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Lol reading some of the boomer comments in this thread quite hilarious. Talk one long story to brag about how they took 20 years to achieve 10k-13k (quite low tbh)

And to a boomer, Company pay high starting salary - “Sure not!? They’ll work you to death…even high salary can be readjusted”

Company pay low starting salary - “Aiya fresh grad no skill no experience cannot expect so much”

Typical boomers…finding fault in everything. Mediocore mindset.
Exactly. 10charsss
20-08-2021 01:44 AM
Unregistered Lol reading some of the boomer comments in this thread quite hilarious. Talk one long story to brag about how they took 20 years to achieve 10k-13k (quite low tbh)

And to a boomer, Company pay high starting salary - “Sure not!? They’ll work you to death…even high salary can be readjusted”

Company pay low starting salary - “Aiya fresh grad no skill no experience cannot expect so much”

Typical boomers…finding fault in everything. Mediocore mindset.
20-08-2021 01:28 AM
Unregistered Damn amusing how two posters are bragging about 10k and 13k in 20 years when these days we can achieve that in 5-6 years.

Build your skills and niche, know the right people and with enough luck, you can make it anywhere.

Take the position that forces you to grow.
19-08-2021 09:47 PM
Jurlilane My friend started working as a firefighter. I've seen how it works - it's very interesting
19-01-2021 06:34 PM
Unregistered if the job sounds like it can bring you to the next level then by all means go
18-01-2021 07:23 PM
Unregistered Don’t be afraid to fight for what you want. Potential employers are able to spot persistence from a mile away. The ability to remain steadfast when faced with adversity is a sign of a great employee. Don’t hesitate to send an email response, or even a text message, to ask why you were rejected and if there are other more appropriate jobs within the company that you can apply to instead. Read more: |<a href="s://.randstad.com.sg/career-advice/tips-and-resources/how-to-overcome-job-application-rejection/">how to overcome the devastating impact of a job application rejection</a>
07-01-2021 11:03 AM
Unregistered 4k for a manager position is low.
For context. If you need to hire a foreigner to work in Singapore they nerd 3.8k for the employment pass to ba approved.

So China is low balling...

Maybe that's why they eying fresh grad. Cause to fresh grad 4k is alot.
But to the company. Manager asking for 6to 8k for the job they will ask you to do. 24/7

And high pay doesn't mean your next job won't readjust back.
My friend his first job was too high back when fresh grad is getting 2.5k he claimed he was paid 3.5k and subsequently when he join his next job he have to take pay cut. Firsr he was offered his asking from his last paid... But after 6 months there. HR readjust his salary say got market rate adjustment and he either take the pay cut or quit

He quit. And struggle to find job and keep one after that cause he keep chasing for higher pay
Meanwhile I stayed with the same corporation from 2.5k fresh grad. Now I'm already VP level 13k with ncs.

So choose your career path. You like to stay rooted or jump here and there.

Either way it sounds more like OP don't know what to with life and have the delusion that this first job determines everything.

Wrong.

People with low starting pay can get high increment if they loyal etc.
It's all luck and timing and alot of factors.

So must pray CNY wealth and career. That's why all the old people, business etc always pray and burn asking for wealth prosperity and career growth

Cause there is no guarantee in life.

Those work in SIA. Brand. Prestige. High pay. Now laid off.
Get more experience. Build connection. Network. Find passive income. Network. Social media. Training.

If you think your first job decides your future. Then don't bother la cause every year got brew fresh a new batch of ppl coming to steal your job from you.
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