| Today 10:20 PM |
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Originally Posted by JustATiredManager
If you have shown leadership skills in your own rights, client facing achievements, “Plus Ones” and have certifications (certain Pod Leads are particular on this), it is likely one will get promoted when the MAL is ready. However, these few years the budget (hence slots) is limited so it comes down to the finer details.
Do also note that there is two additional layers of moderation - 1) Project Senior Leadership (eg MDs) and 2) Pod Leads. Unfortunately, different Pods have varying slots due to the relative financial performance of the Pods which are outside of L11-L7 control since sales are typically managed by L6 and above.
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Just observe and see cm pod is the smallest pod across all these years and generally promotions are only a handful less than 5. In normal or bad years maybe none or 1-3 max. There are capable people in this pod that I know too but because of such those good ones in the pod aren’t happy about it. Especially heard the pod lead don’t really care about the pod and the promotions for those under it, always give all sorts of reasons and say all project decision.
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| Today 10:16 PM |
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can stop raining on other people's parade?
she is a xmm that got lucky, so be it. work harder
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lol people who knows are all stating facts. Wow her luck must be AMAZING to be LUCKY to fast track twice lmao when company not doing well. On the project and ive seen her openly cry in office cos of what? Cos she stress lmao. Is she ready for the next level? Do SA or even C level cry in office just cos they stress and cannot cope? Sorry she just sound like someone who is fast tracked when she isn’t fully ready. Period.
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| Today 09:52 PM |
| JustATiredManager |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Can my PL initiate the promotion convo for me with management, or it has to be initiated by the project or pod?
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Generally, the TD process is as such:
1. HR will provide guidance to projects with “guidelines” (dependent on financials)
2. Project TD will commence about 4 weeks before the Pod TD
3. Pod TD will commence and only discuss P1/P2/IP and/or those with high MALs and/or those with disciplinary issues (eg complaints, missed timesheet). PLs are then informed to attend these sessions.
4. Pod Leads will make the final recommendation to HR
5. Senior Leadership will moderate if required with both Project and Pod inputs
As you can see, PLs have little influence on the entire process per se as PLs are often not direct supervisors of the counselees (hence a “smaller voice”). But PLs can try to help if there are other “supporters” within/outside of the Project of the counselees (eg other PLs/leadership who can vouch).
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| Today 08:07 PM |
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Can my PL initiate the promotion convo for me with management, or it has to be initiated by the project or pod?
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| Today 02:49 PM |
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any good news in ACN recently?
any corporate discount we can make use of?
the last good one is the NIKE one
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| Today 02:12 PM |
| JustATiredManager |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi, would like to know of any example of top achievements that a SA/A will not typically do?
I feel like the role and skillset I have in my project in ACN (NBS) is very generic and can be done by a driven intern/fresh grad, if given some time to learn the functional/business specific scenarios for the project. It seems like a waste as I have no opportunity to learn new skills within the project (e.g. Technical skills such as coding/cloud/analytics). I do try to find ways to improve my/my teams workflow through sql/python scripts/powerquery/trying to learn VBA, but those skills are very high level and mostly used for scripting/data search/data cleaning.
On another note, I have seen people in the project also create guides (e.g. A/SA: Guide for how to generate data for a key E2E tesying areas) and tools (AM: automated interface data creation) but don't see them getting promoted. What could be the reasons why someone could be selected or passed over for promotion during TD?
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If you have shown leadership skills in your own rights, client facing achievements, “Plus Ones” and have certifications (certain Pod Leads are particular on this), it is likely one will get promoted when the MAL is ready. However, these few years the budget (hence slots) is limited so it comes down to the finer details.
Do also note that there is two additional layers of moderation - 1) Project Senior Leadership (eg MDs) and 2) Pod Leads. Unfortunately, different Pods have varying slots due to the relative financial performance of the Pods which are outside of L11-L7 control since sales are typically managed by L6 and above.
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| Today 01:16 PM |
| JustATiredManager |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Lol going to call bs on this. Since when interns get involved in BD?
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You misunderstood - there is nothing for anyone to gain in spewing BS on such a forum when all I am trying to do is help most people here as most comments are likely from the more junior resources based on my personal inference. What I meant is that I myself did a lot of meeting minutes during my intern days (not necessarily in ACN), which is very typical of most firms I have worked in. The point I am making here is that the lowest ranked person is a meeting tends to be the minutes taker, so even an AD can be the one taking minutes if the call involves only MDs, which is something I had experienced myself before in person since I was just a SME and was not charging to the BD WBS.
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| Today 11:30 AM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
can stop raining on other people's parade?
she is a xmm that got lucky, so be it. work harder
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yeaa some ppl is just lucky
suck it up
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| Today 06:03 AM |
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Don’t agree that female have advantage because been through that and done a lot and all. But agree with what you’ve shared on the lady, indeed her PL (not her original PL, she changed PL) and this PL happened to be her team manager. It’s extremely obvious for those on the team that the PL took favour for her. She tries her best at work but come on everybody does too. She aren’t that great, I’ve known other SA who was struggling two projects at the same time and even before that A who were in dual workstreams and leading it themselves. So her so called achievements aren’t just sorely her. Still don’t believe it’s justifiable for two fast tracks consecutively. And it’s funny how a project will promote someone who would leave the project or made it so known that she’s been wanting to leave the project. It’s shocking to hear the manager got her another project when he only shares with others that he knows no projects
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can stop raining on other people's parade?
she is a xmm that got lucky, so be it. work harder
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| Today 01:16 AM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi Sir, while there may be some truth in what you’re saying it’s not entirely true that she’s that great to attain fast track for both ranks especially the part on SA to CL9 in a bad Financial year. To justify, I was part of the project and what I know is that her PL is her direct team manager who recommended her to WD bank project. She has been wanting to get out of the project FYI. Her PL who are friends with the manager in the other project probably put in good words for her & recommended her for promotion (which is why she got early promotion from A to SA and at the same time from SA to CL9). Friends will help one another to achieve the same objective.
Furthermore, triage/ UAT session there was a lot of help received from the technical manager (this is the legend that had helped out with any technical issues and has been in the project from the start but left ACN aldy, different person from her PL) and other Solution Architects. While it is true that she stayed back very often at work during her time with BT, the modules she was placed in-charged with have issues. And FYI she didn’t lead Consultant level, she only led interns & analyst/SAs (new joiner to the project thus no project knowledge). The macro she created did not test for all the use cases and failed at some of the use case but its fine as long as those use cases was omitted when using. Her modules that she were “in-charged” in has issues even when some of the PHIs has gone live. Poor souls in the project have to clean up part of the mess that was left by her now that she’s gone too after she took the promotion. Her stay in WD project is estimated to be around 6 months before promotion and 2 months later she left the company (total 8 mths) for whatever reason. Btw did I mention that her PL who recommended her for promotion will be getting out of BT to another project?
Promotions happened, left the project/ACN and other people have to clean up their mess. Things are not always as they seem. End of day want promotion just por management & if u female confirm got advantage
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Don’t agree that female have advantage because been through that and done a lot and all. But agree with what you’ve shared on the lady, indeed her PL (not her original PL, she changed PL) and this PL happened to be her team manager. It’s extremely obvious for those on the team that the PL took favour for her. She tries her best at work but come on everybody does too. She aren’t that great, I’ve known other SA who was struggling two projects at the same time and even before that A who were in dual workstreams and leading it themselves. So her so called achievements aren’t just sorely her. Still don’t believe it’s justifiable for two fast tracks consecutively. And it’s funny how a project will promote someone who would leave the project or made it so known that she’s been wanting to leave the project. It’s shocking to hear the manager got her another project when he only shares with others that he knows no projects
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