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Today 09:33 AM
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If they are that amazing they would have left for a higher pay elsewhere already.

L9 is standard 6k at the higher end for tech/management consulting.
L9 is high 7-9k for analytics people.
L9 is high 8k for strategy people.

As you can see, difference prices for different kinds of talents. Take note that c&m personnel stay longer at l11 because the jump is really high from l11 to l9.

But cdo people who stayed long at l11 just to move up to l10? Losers. End of story.
Money is not the only driving force of one’s career. Job satisfaction and the team that you’re working with also matters.
Today 08:00 AM
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To be honest I feel like you sound a little too harsh here. I know of a lot of analysts who stayed at Level 11 for 3 years. Their performance has been nothing short of amazing. It just happens that they just shuffle around projects and they do not have enough runway in their current project to be recommended for promotion. Promotion used to be dependent on budget and your project manager can only recommend a few analysts for promotion. The criteria to be recommended for promotion is not entirely due to performance, your tenure in the project matters as well. I believe that your career is a marathon and people choose to stay for a variety of reasons. The fact that you think that it’s easy to get a job in this Covid climate shows that you are self entitled. Nothing comes easy, even for individuals with 10 years of experience. Also, I do feel that it is unfair for SAs to clock another 2 years before they get promoted but I feel that the pay at Level 9 is worth the wait. Even if one were to job hop once every year, I think it would be difficult to command a Level 9 pay at the end of 2 years.
If they are that amazing they would have left for a higher pay elsewhere already.

L9 is standard 6k at the higher end for tech/management consulting.
L9 is high 7-9k for analytics people.
L9 is high 8k for strategy people.

As you can see, difference prices for different kinds of talents. Take note that c&m personnel stay longer at l11 because the jump is really high from l11 to l9.

But cdo people who stayed long at l11 just to move up to l10? Losers. End of story.
24-09-2021 12:19 AM
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To be honest I feel like you sound a little too harsh here. I know of a lot of analysts who stayed at Level 11 for 3 years. Their performance has been nothing short of amazing. It just happens that they just shuffle around projects and they do not have enough runway in their current project to be recommended for promotion. Promotion used to be dependent on budget and your project manager can only recommend a few analysts for promotion. The criteria to be recommended for promotion is not entirely due to performance, your tenure in the project matters as well. I believe that your career is a marathon and people choose to stay for a variety of reasons. The fact that you think that it’s easy to get a job in this Covid climate shows that you are self entitled. Nothing comes easy, even for individuals with 10 years of experience. Also, I do feel that it is unfair for SAs to clock another 2 years before they get promoted but I feel that the pay at Level 9 is worth the wait. Even if one were to job hop once every year, I think it would be difficult to command a Level 9 pay at the end of 2 years.
Why is it unfair for SAs? Isn’t it 2 years to go from SA > C before the programme as well?
23-09-2021 11:25 PM
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L9 pay a lot mrh? 10k a month?
10k is manager liao lor.. AM also not even close. L9 probably 6k ish
23-09-2021 08:29 PM
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To be honest I feel like you sound a little too harsh here. I know of a lot of analysts who stayed at Level 11 for 3 years. Their performance has been nothing short of amazing. It just happens that they just shuffle around projects and they do not have enough runway in their current project to be recommended for promotion. Promotion used to be dependent on budget and your project manager can only recommend a few analysts for promotion. The criteria to be recommended for promotion is not entirely due to performance, your tenure in the project matters as well. I believe that your career is a marathon and people choose to stay for a variety of reasons. The fact that you think that it’s easy to get a job in this Covid climate shows that you are self entitled. Nothing comes easy, even for individuals with 10 years of experience. Also, I do feel that it is unfair for SAs to clock another 2 years before they get promoted but I feel that the pay at Level 9 is worth the wait. Even if one were to job hop once every year, I think it would be difficult to command a Level 9 pay at the end of 2 years.
L9 pay a lot mrh? 10k a month?
23-09-2021 06:30 PM
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… I know the game la. I here how long already. Every August have yearly performance review they call it “talent discussion”. The outcome determines if u get promote in the Dec cycle. Those who never promote probably barely “meets expectation” or even below. If exceed expectation how to not promote u? The faster u promote means u can take on more responsibility why not?
many people only wanna get promoted based on yr in svc
23-09-2021 01:20 PM
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Before you comment, try to understand how promotion works.
… I know the game la. I here how long already. Every August have yearly performance review they call it “talent discussion”. The outcome determines if u get promote in the Dec cycle. Those who never promote probably barely “meets expectation” or even below. If exceed expectation how to not promote u? The faster u promote means u can take on more responsibility why not?
23-09-2021 11:50 AM
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3 years + stuck in same rank u join ??? Means u really cannot make it..
Do u get yearly increment??
Before you comment, try to understand how promotion works.
23-09-2021 09:51 AM
Unregistered What the increment like from analysts to senior analyst???
Current analysts alrdy getting 4.9 gross after allownace
23-09-2021 09:50 AM
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Anyone heard of the 1+ 2 tapper program?

I feel a bit unfair to many senior/lao jiao staff who are at level 11 for 3 years or more

I myself is one is level 11 for very long, then now suddenly new joiner can be promoted in 1 year?

I ask them to promote me straight to lvl 9, then they told me they can only promote me to level 10 and I have to wait another 2 year??
3 years + stuck in same rank u join ??? Means u really cannot make it..
Do u get yearly increment??
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