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26-07-2021 11:35 PM
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I was from private about 10years and switched to govtech.
Not really clicks with the culture, people and processes.
From my current team history, promotion and pay increment is too little compared to private.
The skills set is only applicable to current department. Not valuable to your portfolio. Basically people just get some tasks and making sure you are busy and hit the kpi.
However there are many folks stay put because
1. Comfortable with small gang of friends.
2. Not updated skills set. Doubt their resume will be selected if want to try private.
3. Plan to repeat doing same tasks till retire.
4. It is rare that junior talented can replace senior old folks. So likely people already secured the seat as if you do not leave then nobody will kick you out.

If you are ok with 1,2,3,4 then gov sector definatelt suit you.
Sir, you are in HQ govtech or Agency govtech?
26-07-2021 11:32 PM
Unregistered I was from private about 10years and switched to govtech.
Not really clicks with the culture, people and processes.
From my current team history, promotion and pay increment is too little compared to private.
The skills set is only applicable to current department. Not valuable to your portfolio. Basically people just get some tasks and making sure you are busy and hit the kpi.
However there are many folks stay put because
1. Comfortable with small gang of friends.
2. Not updated skills set. Doubt their resume will be selected if want to try private.
3. Plan to repeat doing same tasks till retire.
4. It is rare that junior talented can replace senior old folks. So likely people already secured the seat as if you do not leave then nobody will kick you out.

If you are ok with 1,2,3,4 then gov sector definatelt suit you.
26-07-2021 01:17 PM
gurlInTech While tech is booming currently I recommend private tech sector that actually offers stock units bah. Technically that is where most of the salary for a tech employee gets. Don’t be distracted by the high starting salary. Its easier to get promoted in private sector too if you are not a scholar. After accumulating all the stocks you can then convert to a non-tech public sector to “retire” and have more time to spend with your family and stuffs. The stocks won’t be waiting for you forever.
26-07-2021 12:51 PM
Unregistered Doesnt it depend on what your job scope is though? As long as you are doing technical job wouldnt the skills be transferrable? Say for example GovTech does quite a bit of tech development isnt it? Asking because considering their TAP.

Also, does DSO count as public service? Talked to some of the research engineers there and they seem to be doing quite a fair bit of technical work and development so are those transferrable to other private sectors?
11-05-2021 09:52 PM
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Is public sector really that bad? Understand red tapes, bureaucracy and all is inevitable. What if you join those reputable ones like MAS, Govtech? Ain't they prestigious too? I get this perception that Public Service rewards `loyalty' AKA how long you stay. So if you intend to carve a long term career, it doesn't seem too bad imo. Also, Public Service does seem like a stable iron bowl. Stable work hours, reasonable pay. Is it really that bad?
P. S. haven't been there but maybe I have an overly idealistic perception. Any one in PS maybe can share more insights?
Scholar culture. If you are a non-scholar, career progression is slower than private in most cases. Unless you are really behkan. But that is not the worse part.

One does not leave the government sector easily because skills mismatch. Government procure and audit as the customer, vendor do the real thing. In government you hear all the time people saying want to quit. But when you leave it is pay cut. When you are paying off your mortgage and car loan it won’t be that easy anymore.

There are exceptional cases but rare. Speak to your working relatives or friends they will mostly agree. Also not uncommon for civil servants to have side businesses, whether official or unofficial though spouse.
10-05-2021 08:46 PM
Unregistered how willing are you to start over your career in either area? whether you go from public side to private side or private to public, you will likely have to take a pay cut and start a step back all over again since either side are quite different and don't value the skills from the other side much
10-05-2021 04:36 PM
Unregistered Is public sector really that bad? Understand red tapes, bureaucracy and all is inevitable. What if you join those reputable ones like MAS, Govtech? Ain't they prestigious too? I get this perception that Public Service rewards `loyalty' AKA how long you stay. So if you intend to carve a long term career, it doesn't seem too bad imo. Also, Public Service does seem like a stable iron bowl. Stable work hours, reasonable pay. Is it really that bad?
P. S. haven't been there but maybe I have an overly idealistic perception. Any one in PS maybe can share more insights?
10-05-2021 01:02 PM
Unregistered Story of 2 fresh grads from same local u

Freshie 1 join ecommerce coy as engineer
1.5 year later join china internet giant as senior engineer

Freshie 2 join govt as engineer
1.5 year later... cannot get china internet giant interview
1.5 year later, lan lan join ecommerce coy to replace freshie 1 lol

TS dun be gong kia lol
Whole thread tell you avoid govt still want to eng eng pursue
10-05-2021 12:58 PM
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Side projects and contributions to well known projects. When leaving I heard that most had failed tech screens and that's why they joined the govt lol.

You seem like you'd be a great fit for govt. It's not an "adventure", it's a black hole.
10-05-2021 12:00 PM
Unregistered Not #7. Sharing a real life example of two fresh grads from the same school with similar profile

Freshie 1 joins ecommerce unicorn. 1.5 years later, joins chinese internet giant with senior rank

Freshie 2 joins govt. 1.5 years later, Bytedance doesn't even offer to interview. Despite freshie 2 got do open source work for >5k github starred projects. So freshie 2 joins ecommerce unicorn to replace freshie 1.

Don't know how to make it more obvious for TS.

Whole thread say don't go govt still want to consider govt lol.
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