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28-07-2021 04:47 PM
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wisdom of the crowds

i was told forums are negative but dun seem so to me. I am an ex teacher who have the opportunity to go into finance with a leadership role. However, months into the job, i do appreciate the opportunities and the nice colleagues, I feel like the meaningfulness still pales in comparison to teaching. I was in finance for 2 years, got into teaching, now back into finance with a higher position yet I feel this way. Hmmm, anyone in a similar predicament? The thing i am afraid of is MOE may not give me a full time job but ask me to be contract which is not palatable to me. MOE may not be a good paymaster but the sch i can from was good. I left due to health reasons and also the opportunity in finance. Should I go back I would need to manage and change the way I teach. Appreciate any advice.
18-06-2021 04:33 PM
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Hello! I am in the exact same predicament. How has it been going for you? And for people who are looking to join this sector, please please make sure that you know what you are signing up for, and do NOT rush into this job just so you can have a stable career. It is not worth it at all
its been going well, best decision ever
05-05-2021 11:00 AM
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Hi everyone,

I am a teacher who have completed my PGDE and am serving my bond. I am trying to hold out for as long as I can but sometimes I really find it difficult to continue. Hence, I would like to seek help here to find out on the breaking of bond. Does anyone know if I have to pay the full LD or if I have to pay part of the LD since I have fulfilled some years of the bond? Thank you.

Hello! I am in the exact same predicament. How has it been going for you? And for people who are looking to join this sector, please please make sure that you know what you are signing up for, and do NOT rush into this job just so you can have a stable career. It is not worth it at all
28-04-2021 07:08 PM
Unregistered Maybe I can give a glimmer of hope. I was in the teaching force for more than 10 years. The day I left service (I resign on my terms because I was pushed against the wall and not much room to breathe by the SLs and SMC), I did ask a question. Tuition or something. I decide the play my cards and took up some IT course. Yes, several job rejections. But now, I am glad to say I secure a job in a IT firm.
07-04-2021 10:16 PM
Unregistered Very true, SL can screw you up as they wish and you are a sitting duck. Mine threatened teachers that he has the power to close a department and had done it. At the end of the day some SLs only care about how they themselves are rated so they manipulate things to get everything to checked and balanced. Mine makes things difficult for the more senior teachers to cut payroll by replacing with young ones. He expected compliance and was such a control freak. Fortunately for me I was able to do what I enjoy, teaching in a greener pasture overseas.
04-04-2021 09:22 AM
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I've been trying my luck applying for other civil service jobs on Internal Marketplace for the past year or so. It's been a chain of rejection letters.

Seems like my experience and skillset is not particularly valuable. Or just have to market myself betterÖ
Whr to find tis internal marketplace??
04-03-2021 12:24 PM
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You get D, you can't change school.
Actually, you can. I know of 2 guys who changed schools after they got D.

Two different outcomes though:

One was given a lecture by his new schoolís principal on his first day at the new school and was told that teachers who get D would continue to get D in the new school. The next 3 years was hell for him. He was treated badly in school and given D every year after that. In the third year that he got D, the principal even told him that they would observe his lesson every week and were considering giving him an E. He quit.

The next guy had a new lease of life in his new school. He excelled and got A for his appraisal.

So everything depends on the SLs. If they want to give you hell, thereís no way you can get out of it.
03-03-2021 06:55 AM
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I love teaching. I love interacting with students. I don't mind demanding parents. But last year 2020, I had been unfairly judged by SOP , P and SLs. I had been given D grade. "We had done everything to support you, you can't perform". I want to change school but I was warned that my p will call the other school's p and say about my performance. Teaching is not the same anymore. Sadly.......
You get D, you can't change school.
02-03-2021 08:01 PM
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Want to quit

I love teaching. I love interacting with students. I don't mind demanding parents. But last year 2020, I had been unfairly judged by SOP , P and SLs. I had been given D grade. "We had done everything to support you, you can't perform". I want to change school but I was warned that my p will call the other school's p and say about my performance. Teaching is not the same anymore. Sadly.......
15-02-2021 01:58 PM
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Hi, thanks for sharing! I actually emailed the moe connect team and they mentioned that if my last day of service is on 31 Dec 2021, Iíll be eligible for the payout. Because technically the connect deposit eligibility for the year is 1 Jan to 15 Nov. So I was thinking to tender on 30 Nov 2021 to give one month notice and then have my last day to be on 31 Dec 2021. May I know how did you find out that we have to stay till the following year in order to receive the payout? Because if thatís really the case, then itíll be a totally different story and I may not be keen to stay one more year just to get $10k. Once again, thanks for sharing!
If I were you, I will submit my letter of resignation on the last day of school, so that they won`t give me papers to set for the following year (happened to us in our former school). Submit on the 15 and set in the letter of resignation that your last day of service is 1 january 2022. Then look for a job. On 31 Dec, the connect plan will be banked in minus deductions for CPF. Apply for leave to go on a short holiday and plan for interviews in the month to come. You can always come back to teach part-time if you can`t get a job in the meantime. This way there is no pressure. But don`t be fooled to return to service because schools may try to do that because they can`t get teachers which they will try to bargain with you.

Good luck! Don`t stay too long because I stayed for 11 years and I can tell you the longer you stay, the harder the readjustment. If you are unsure, I can tell you that is a sign that you should resign.

You are not alone. Although MOE claims 1000 teachers resign each year, that is untrue. The numbers seems closer to 2000 teachers resigning each year. NIE alone takes in two semestral intakes in the low of 3000 trainee teachers per year, some of whom won`t pass practicum. Why does MOE recruit 3000 trainees when 1000 resign each year and this does not include teachers who retire, early retire, pass away and on leave?

MOE is not transparent but the numbers don`t lie. The education statistics indicate a significant number of teachers resigning in the first 15 years of teaching with the biggest drop in the first 10 years. The most significant is in the first 7 years.

MOE has not reformed its system. It will not change until enough teachers organise themselves like in America and stopped teaching until better working conditions are adhered to. In the meantime, MOE will continue with cosmetic changes without really changing anything.

When I was teaching, I saw 3-4 teachers resigning each year. This does not include those who choose to transfer schools only to eventually resign. Transfering is delaying the inevitable because its the same system in these other schools. I speak from experience.

Best of luck!
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