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Yesterday 11:33 AM
Unregistered Perm staff
- promote every 2 to 3 years
- but don't actually do the work
- just hire outsource ppl to do the work
- annual leave 21 days compared to outsource 14 days
- mc 21 days compared to outsouce

reason given by management why dont convert
- need to pay agency when conversion
- no perm position available
- got headcount limit

perm staff = leech company money can't contribute no real skills.
managers are mostly internal managers (a.k.a everyday ask u and micro manage u for updates cause their boss everyday micro manage them).
real managers are external managers (they manage outside)
st managers are internal managers (they manage inside)

hence so many politics, push here and there.
most glaring is this during covid-19
- outsource need to come back to work on site cause they are essential
- perm staff managers WFH and they just keep shooting email to show that they working from home

- we just shut off. at work on site no need to reply your email..
- need update? then u come back to office see and use ur eyes to see lo.
- nobody got time to entertain u.
- perm staff get promoted
- outsource get transferred/not renewed/subject to termination every 1 to 2 years.
- perm staff get promoted every 2 to 3 years.

i want to ask management why your perm staff don't do work one.
if they really have no skillet why are the company retaining them as perm?
why are outsource subjected to renewal every 2 years based on performance.
perm staff 2 years do absolutely nothing.
meeting update on 1 project for 5 years (are the management so dumb?)
Yesterday 11:01 AM
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Hello, i am in st elec for more than 5 years as E5 and i am still E5. should i request to change department? My RO is very understanding and most of the time i can just pretend i am stress that i have alot of work to do. since covid wfh requirement, there is not much new project and nothing much to do so i mostly stay at home. afew months ago someone not from my dept is picking on me by saying im not doing work. i complain him to my RO and his RO but they did not do anything to him. For sometime during WFH is required, i went back to office so my RO AO can see i am in office working. I have been trying to do make him mess up something but i think he is aware of it and my RO is noticing it. I have also think that i am being mark since i am still E5 after i join as perm for more than 5 year. my dept have afew that join after me but promoted to E6. i am 40 soon and i have tried to apply job outside but there is no reply. should i sent email to HR or my VP, and what should i say. Thank you in advance for your advice.
If you believe there is nothing wrong with you but others are pulling you down. I suggest you take a look around for newer opportunities. This company doesn't really appreciate the staff. They make you do the job but never give you any credits. There will be credit stealers and people try to put you down for them to climb. It's a toxic place to be in. E5 for more than 5years is a sign of slow and probably no progression.

Just keep trying finding your opportunity out there. While doing that, make use of the time and opportunity you have to expose to more skills and experience. What the losers in the company can steal is your credit but not your skills, knowledge and experience.

Good luck in your job search.
23-09-2021 09:03 AM
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How's the work life for a contract staff in STEE actually?
At least how many years to convert into perm?
not enough post saying work life in st or average amount of years to convert meh?
22-09-2021 09:13 AM
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no good

never and no chance to convert
Those who succeed are either selling their soul, or very good with politics. I will leave it as that.
22-09-2021 01:31 AM
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How's the work life for a contract staff in STEE actually?
At least how many years to convert into perm?
no good

never and no chance to convert
20-09-2021 08:06 AM
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How's the work life for a contract staff in STEE actually?
At least how many years to convert into perm?
You should read the past postings of this thread. There are many of such info.
17-09-2021 10:31 PM
Unregistered How's the work life for a contract staff in STEE actually?
At least how many years to convert into perm?
17-09-2021 06:49 AM
Unregistered Does anyone work as radar system integration engineer before ? How is the working experience over there?
16-09-2021 04:41 PM
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Perm staff all jiak liao bee one. Anything is "hire outsource" employee to solve.
Perm staff have no skills and expertise. Then why is the company keeping them as perm staff?

Outsource staff lower pay and less leave etc.
Anyway during this covid-19 my division outsource staff have to come back for essential work.
While those perm staff WFH.

Joke right.
Which means those perm staff are not essential.
And yet it's the perm staff who keep getting promoted for years of doing nothing
While outsource staff slaves away at low pay just to keep their job.

And the management wonder why they can't retain staff.
Thanks staff you retained all cannot make it. Outsource also don't want to waste their talent working FOR you
I left more than 6 months ago and joined a MNC recommended by a friend with a lot of help from him and guidance. When i joined the MNC, I had a big culture shock. In mnc, you really have to do work and they really follow up. Every project is about cost and output so you don't have redundant projects hanging around doing nothing. The discipline is hard and i always have to catch up on my skills. I felt like a fresh grad out of ST with no skills that can be used. I didn't get confirmed during my 3rd month probation because i really can't catch up. But i finally got confirmed by my 6th month after putting in a lot of effort. The pros are i now i get real industry sought skills, worldwide exposure, opportunities to get professional certifications. The cons are, you really have to catch up. The pace is very different. But i have no regrets leaving.
16-09-2021 11:32 AM
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Hello, i am in st elec for more than 5 years as E5 and i am still E5. should i request to change department? My RO is very understanding and most of the time i can just pretend i am stress that i have alot of work to do. since covid wfh requirement, there is not much new project and nothing much to do so i mostly stay at home. afew months ago someone not from my dept is picking on me by saying im not doing work. i complain him to my RO and his RO but they did not do anything to him. For sometime during WFH is required, i went back to office so my RO AO can see i am in office working. I have been trying to do make him mess up something but i think he is aware of it and my RO is noticing it. I have also think that i am being mark since i am still E5 after i join as perm for more than 5 year. my dept have afew that join after me but promoted to E6. i am 40 soon and i have tried to apply job outside but there is no reply. should i sent email to HR or my VP, and what should i say. Thank you in advance for your advice.
wow.
一山还比一山高, 你的山非常高. u 40yo E5 means u legendary fk up and u are the problem. so old liao still wan set ppl up
info comm also got alot ppl like this. can we like mass report somewhere so the hr or someone high up will do something?

on other topic lol:
anyone else bouns was 0.5mth? i recontract this mth. i band 1 get 0.5mths, my other colleagues band 2 also 0.5mths. we st contract and got a band2 showed me payslip. i think band 3 0mth. my dept revenue same as before covid, i very sad
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