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16-07-2011 10:06 PM
undiscern The above post is absolutely right, to a manager (most are non-phd), hiring a phd or doctorate graduate as subordinate is putting a threat under your own management.
16-07-2011 12:39 PM
Unregistered Get a DBA or PHD only if u are going along the academia line, or like mentioned, R&D.
The corporate world do not have a place for a DBA, despite what schools advertised.
I have one and I had to hide it from my resume, coz I realise that it was the one that is causing me not being able to get jobs, as my headhunters found out from the hiring HRs, that no one in the management level who just have bachelor or masters will want to hire a DBA to be their staff.
I only show my DBA when I am doing freelance consultancy work for firms, and that is only after 20yrs of solid experience that gets me the deals, and not my DBA.
16-07-2011 11:36 AM
undiscern
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Note: Generally at Doctorate level there is no such thing as 'bad' university, as the these/dissertation is "SUPPOSED" to be peer-reviewed.
Strongly agreed with your last statement unlike bachelor or master where things are graded inhouse hence a good uni is impt. Phd or doctorate studies are peer reviewed by overseas uni. Most importantly is the number of quality publications (top international journals) you can achieve while doing your phd. There are many phd graduates from local uni whom graduated with none or only 1 journal paper. Even though local uni are top ranked, but these phd graduates will be forever laughing stocks of other more accomplished phd graduates whom may not be from top uni.
16-07-2011 12:36 AM
Unregistered
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Hi all, I am intending to pursue a doctorate course being offered by local private institution in Singapore.

My academic background is a MBA and 2nd Class Honors degree, both in international Business and Marketing.

I am in the Outdoor Media advertising industry and I realized that perhaps obtaining a doctorate might not help push up my salary package substantially but I am considering doing a doctorate to prepare myself in future if I were to set up my own advisory / consultancy firm.

There has been a few doctorates programs being offered here by Private Institutions here in Singapore including by MDIS. I would like to seek opinions and advise by fellow forumers here on which program is most recognizable and able to add most value in terms of prestige and recognition of university and course?

I am looking into furthering in the discipline of international Relations or Strategy studies in media / advertising.

Can anyone help advise please?

Thank you
I had a frank discussion with the HR manager on my last day of employment the MNC I worked for to seek his insights on doing a PhD/DBA with a view on career prospect or pay enhancement. In gist, the feedback I received was that unless it's DIRECTLY adding value to the position I am doing (e.g.: R&D researcher) or in an academic arena, then it's not going to bring me ahead of my peers in terms of pay or career enhancement. [In short => I am wasting my time.]

However, if you are contemplating being a 'representative' of a firm, client-focused, client-rep type of role (sales, marketing), it can be impressive. For the same $, the client is getting "higher educated" staff/team. It boils down to follow-up and performance (Not doctorate) ultimately.

Still, the fact is even Poly are getting more selective and employing more PhD as staff than before. 'Upsize' is the key word.

Note: Generally at Doctorate level there is no such thing as 'bad' university, as the these/dissertation is "SUPPOSED" to be peer-reviewed.
05-05-2011 12:37 AM
Daniel
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Exactly, like anything, it has risks and tradeoffs....U mite end up worse off or at the same place after 4 years...u mite also end up happier n more successful...but before u take up this ordeal:

1. ask urself, what u want to achieve after phd bcus most people only think it will make things better which is not necessary
2. do u have any interest in research, academia or teaching; or do u want to use it to enhance ur position in ur current area of expertize
3. better find out what kind of results do people achieve with phds in similar area

in short, find out what u want n what u can get from a Phd....dont go with wrong notions or hype...
Thats a very good advise, thanks very much

How about instead of a PhD, I pursue a DBA to enhance my current position in my current company?
04-05-2011 12:02 AM
Unregistered Exactly, like anything, it has risks and tradeoffs....U mite end up worse off or at the same place after 4 years...u mite also end up happier n more successful...but before u take up this ordeal:

1. ask urself, what u want to achieve after phd bcus most people only think it will make things better which is not necessary
2. do u have any interest in research, academia or teaching; or do u want to use it to enhance ur position in ur current area of expertize
3. better find out what kind of results do people achieve with phds in similar area

in short, find out what u want n what u can get from a Phd....dont go with wrong notions or hype...
03-05-2011 10:18 PM
Daniel Bro so it is a double edge sword ?
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Why detrimental ? Well, its not necessary. Depends on the case. It may be good, may not be good. May depend on field too.

Companies only hire people when they need them. U will spend 4-5 years on a Ph.D. What skills will u learn that will benefit the company. Will they be better to hire someone with industrial experience or with a Ph.D.

In my field, even tho I did not do great in my phd, I got an offer from an MNC abroad. But I could not find a good job in industry in Singapore. Academia or Postdoc are a long fight with low pay if u are not interested. So why is it the I could not get much success in Singapore . Bcus technology firms really dont do that kind of work hence dont need such people.

U shd see if Singapore hires n needs Phd in ur area. If not , u will reduce ur chances of finding a job. Dont look at 1-2 PhDs in ur company. Look at what happens to most Phds from singapore.

At the end, it depends on u. If u do well, u can get position abroad, u can go to academia, u mite become a teacher or professor. So, it all depends on ur determination. But if things dont work out as u plan, u mite also regret. A lot of Phds regret, some dont. Where do u see ur self ??
03-05-2011 10:42 AM
Unregistered Why detrimental ? Well, its not necessary. Depends on the case. It may be good, may not be good. May depend on field too.

Companies only hire people when they need them. U will spend 4-5 years on a Ph.D. What skills will u learn that will benefit the company. Will they be better to hire someone with industrial experience or with a Ph.D.

In my field, even tho I did not do great in my phd, I got an offer from an MNC abroad. But I could not find a good job in industry in Singapore. Academia or Postdoc are a long fight with low pay if u are not interested. So why is it the I could not get much success in Singapore . Bcus technology firms really dont do that kind of work hence dont need such people.

U shd see if Singapore hires n needs Phd in ur area. If not , u will reduce ur chances of finding a job. Dont look at 1-2 PhDs in ur company. Look at what happens to most Phds from singapore.

At the end, it depends on u. If u do well, u can get position abroad, u can go to academia, u mite become a teacher or professor. So, it all depends on ur determination. But if things dont work out as u plan, u mite also regret. A lot of Phds regret, some dont. Where do u see ur self ??
03-05-2011 01:07 AM
Daniel
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The earlier post is rite. unless u want a job which requires a phd, a phd wont help. infact it will be detrimental. if u think a phd will increase ur value in similar job market as u r in ritenow, u r mistaken.
May I know why is it detrimental? Thanks for advise
02-05-2011 04:07 PM
Unregistered The earlier post is rite. unless u want a job which requires a phd, a phd wont help. infact it will be detrimental. if u think a phd will increase ur value in similar job market as u r in ritenow, u r mistaken.
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