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Yesterday 11:11 PM
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How much do litigators make? Associate director level?

Have a cousin who works as litigator but associate director for about 3 years now or so.
Asking because he acts like he earns 30k a month
AD where? If Drew and Napier should be around $20k or slightly more ba. But bear in mind no cpf hor

If AD in small firm then prolly peanuts (not in the Goh Chok Tong wife sense)
Yesterday 10:31 PM
Unregistered How much do litigators make? Associate director level?

Have a cousin who works as litigator but associate director for about 3 years now or so.
Asking because he acts like he earns 30k a month
02-10-2022 11:08 AM
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Whilst I don't agree with that statement about women making poor lawyers, I will also take stats from Western countries with a hefty pinch of salt.

Western countries have all sorts of politically correct unwritten diversity quotas that may skew meritocratic selection.

Case in point, Joe Biden's outright commitment to get a black female nominated to the SCOTUS.

Due to culture wars in Western countries, true meritocratic selections are often made subordinate to other priorities that are perceived to be more important such as achieving some kind of racial or gender parity to correct for real or perceived past discriminations.
Putting aside the Joe Biden example, diversity is not at odds with meritocracy and is consistent with it. I’m always curious when people claim that the two are at odds. Without exception they are always men who are part of the majority race in a society. The very people who have never really faced structural barriers in their life and career such as being a struggling mother with kids balancing a legal career (even more so single mothers) or facing the hurdle of navigating systems as a minority. No prizes for guessing who these people (men) are on these forums. Just like how QCs for the longest time always were white men who just happened to deserve it on “merit”. “Merit” is a convenient label for the old boys club. If “merit” doesn’t take into account one’s life journey then it means nothing at all. It’s high time we embraced the benefits of diversity in the legal profession at all levels.
02-10-2022 11:03 AM
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Whilst I don't agree with that statement about women making poor lawyers, I will also take stats from Western countries with a hefty pinch of salt.

Western countries have all sorts of politically correct unwritten diversity quotas that may skew meritocratic selection.

Case in point, Joe Biden's outright commitment to get a black female nominated to the SCOTUS.

Due to culture wars in Western countries, true meritocratic selections are often made subordinate to other priorities that are perceived to be more important such as achieving some kind of racial or gender parity to correct for real or perceived past discriminations.
Putting aside the Joe Biden example, diversity is NOT at odds with meritocracy. I’m always curious when people claim that to be the case. Without exception the people who write that are those who have never really faced structural barrier in their life and career such as being a struggling mother with kids balancing a legal career (even more so single
mothers) or being from a minority. In the domestic context, those would be men from a particular race. Just like how QCs for the longest time always were white men who just happened to deserve it on “merit”. If “merit” doesn’t take into account one’s life journey then merit means nothing at all. It’s high time we embraced the benefits of diversity in the legal profession at all levels.
01-10-2022 04:02 PM
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What happened to former up and coming lawyer Elizabeth Kong? Couldn’t muscle out the incumbents at CC? Or found religion and quit private practice?
Dont jelly lah. She's already far more successful than you'd ever be
01-10-2022 01:32 PM
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Of course lah. Her minions Ng Joo Khin, Bernard Lui, Elizabeth Kong all got implicated. She herself got 15 month suspension.

A hatchet was born. A dissident in exile makes the best partner.
What happened to former up and coming lawyer Elizabeth Kong? Couldn’t muscle out the incumbents at CC? Or found religion and quit private practice?
30-09-2022 11:35 PM
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Lol. Local big4 internships are jokes, mostly. Literally a waste of time. Good luck leveraging that. It’ll be like squeezing blood from a stone.
Ignore what people are saying. As someone who's applied to firms in the UK, yes big four or other internships in Singapore are useful in getting vac schemes/tcs in the UK- but what matters more is your application, articulation, genuine interest in business and commercial law, and willingness to participate in open days or firms events. Also, you need to be able to sell yourself well as someone who is ambitious, a great team player, and someone who can work and be friends with people of all cultures. They also value entrepreneurship and things like running a society or doing commercial awareness competitions.
30-09-2022 08:09 PM
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Of course lah. Her minions Ng Joo Khin, Bernard Lui, Elizabeth Kong all got implicated. She herself got 15 month suspension.

A hatchet was born. A dissident in exile makes the best partner.
Looking at LM website, Stamford's ranks appear to hv shrunk considerably from what I rmb. Are they a competitive mid tier firm to join for corp?
30-09-2022 06:45 PM
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UK law student here. How do I leverage my local big4 internship experience to land jobs at Cravath/London firms? I am only interested in money.
Lol. Local big4 internships are jokes, mostly. Literally a waste of time. Good luck leveraging that. It’ll be like squeezing blood from a stone.
30-09-2022 04:57 PM
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Ignorant. We have several female managing partners, recently for the international firms in Sg.

Also, the High Court of Australia currently has a female majority for the first time.

The climate is changing.
Whilst I don't agree with that statement about women making poor lawyers, I will also take stats from Western countries with a hefty pinch of salt.

Western countries have all sorts of politically correct unwritten diversity quotas that may skew meritocratic selection.

Case in point, Joe Biden's outright commitment to get a black female nominated to the SCOTUS.

Due to culture wars in Western countries, true meritocratic selections are often made subordinate to other priorities that are perceived to be more important such as achieving some kind of racial or gender parity to correct for real or perceived past discriminations.
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