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Today 07:39 PM
sinkingfeeling
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But aren't the progression for MAs standardised?

Why would there be so much politicking?
If you manage to find a job without office politics, please revert back to us
Today 06:48 PM
Unregistered
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Cant comment on EDB but I heard while more competitive than ESG, the culture there isnt as cutthroat as ESG.

Like some of the previous posts have mentioned, its a pressure cooker because tons of fresh ADPs/DPs are scrambling for high visibility projects and these often involves office politicking.

For example, ADPs/DPs holding high-impact portfolios such as Global Markets/International Desk/Digitalization will have more work visibility than those working in Outreach & Market Connectivity. This results in the former group to move up faster in the career ladder.

Do also note that portfolio assignments is according to the whims of the directors overseeing them (so better angkat well when youre an MA). Its not much of a meritocracy lol.

All in all, Id say ESG has a good mixture of candidates ranging from local uni to private uni kids. Just dont screw up your case interviews and youre good. The experience garnered in this agency is transferable to mid-tier consultancy if you do decide to do a lateral jump.

But aren't the progression for MAs standardised?

Why would there be so much politicking?
Today 06:32 PM
Unregistered Cant comment on EDB but I heard while more competitive than ESG, the culture there isnt as cutthroat as ESG.

Like some of the previous posts have mentioned, its a pressure cooker because tons of fresh ADPs/DPs are scrambling for high visibility projects and these often involves office politicking.

For example, ADPs/DPs holding high-impact portfolios such as Global Markets/International Desk/Digitalization will have more work visibility than those working in Outreach & Market Connectivity. This results in the former group to move up faster in the career ladder.

Do also note that portfolio assignments is according to the whims of the directors overseeing them (so better angkat well when youre an MA). Its not much of a meritocracy lol.

All in all, Id say ESG has a good mixture of candidates ranging from local uni to private uni kids. Just dont screw up your case interviews and youre good. The experience garnered in this agency is transferable to mid-tier consultancy if you do decide to do a lateral jump.
Today 05:25 PM
Unregistered why pressure cooker ??

i 2nd lowers local uni cant get in
Today 03:43 PM
Unregistered
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This is accurate.

To shed more light on the typical progression.


MA (graduate program) > Asst Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Sr Dev Partner/Biz Manager (typical career ceiling for most) > Deputy Director > Director

Associate > Sr Associate > [insert fancy project name] Specialist > Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Sr Dev Partner/Biz Manager (typical career ceiling for most) > Deputy Director > Director

Do note that while technically hierarchically lower, some Specialists in ESG earn more than Dev Partners/Biz Managers.

How does this compare to EDB's progression for associates?
Today 02:46 PM
Unregistered No NUS NTU 2nd upper honors no talk one.. Haiz.

**** esg.
Today 02:07 AM
Unregistered
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This is accurate.

To shed more light on the typical progression.


MA (graduate program) > Asst Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Sr Dev Partner/Biz Manager (typical career ceiling for most) > Deputy Director > Director

Associate > Sr Associate > [insert fancy project name] Specialist > Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Sr Dev Partner/Biz Manager (typical career ceiling for most) > Deputy Director > Director

Do note that while technically hierarchically lower, some Specialists in ESG earn more than Dev Partners/Biz Managers.
That's insightful. Thanks! Surprised that most will end their career as a Senior Development Partner? What's the pay range? Should be quite decent I guess given that it's the career ceiling for most!
Today 12:21 AM
Unregistered
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MAs get promoted to Assistant Development Partner after 1 year. 1 year later, Development Partner. Then 3 years later, Senior Development Partner.

Associates follow the Admin Executive route while MA is leadership track.
This is accurate.

To shed more light on the typical progression.


MA (graduate program) > Asst Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Sr Dev Partner/Biz Manager (typical career ceiling for most) > Deputy Director > Director

Associate > Sr Associate > [insert fancy project name] Specialist > Dev Partner/Biz Manager > Sr Dev Partner/Biz Manager (typical career ceiling for most) > Deputy Director > Director

Do note that while technically hierarchically lower, some Specialists in ESG earn more than Dev Partners/Biz Managers.
Today 12:08 AM
Unregistered
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elite fresh grads start directly as management associate. the remainder start as associate.
Will people in this forums please stop throwing that adjective around Civil Service/Stat Board threads. Elite this elite that. Lolwtf.

If you aint PSC scholar, youre not elite. Stop ego-stroking. Despite its pressure cooker environment, ESG has always been one of the more accommodating branch in hiring partners from diverse backgrounds (including private uni scrubs).

Stop bringing in toxicity here.
Yesterday 09:57 PM
Unregistered
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How does the job grade there work? Fresh grad = associate? Manager level is either business or development partner?
elite fresh grads start directly as management associate. the remainder start as associate.
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