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Today 09:38 AM
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Degree and dip ed are only using the same scale. They do not start at the same place on the scale.
Starting pay definitely differs. The length of study for both courses are not the same but at least if you are placed on the same scale, you will be able to catch up
Yesterday 10:31 PM
Unregistered Historically degree Holders are more valued

But if u prove yourself to be capable and with the change in govt approach i think is fine
Yesterday 04:05 PM
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I think there is not as much difference between Dip Ed & degree nowadays because we are all placed on the same scale unlike in the past
Degree and dip ed are only using the same scale. They do not start at the same place on the scale.
Yesterday 02:00 PM
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I think there is not as much difference between Dip Ed & degree nowadays because we are all placed on the same scale unlike in the past
Degree starting pay higher
Yesterday 01:32 PM
Unregistered I think there is not as much difference between Dip Ed & degree nowadays because we are all placed on the same scale unlike in the past
Yesterday 01:29 PM
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Hi everyone,

I chanced upon this thread when I was researching on teaching as a MOE GEO. I was recently shortlisted for DipEd to teach Pri Art.

After reading almost every page on this forum, I feel a little discouraged by the fact that Diploma holders have much slower progression, much lower salary scale. Of course I do understand that this is how the system works, since Degree holders spent more time and money getting the education levels they have and so on.

I am just very concerned, is it true that Diploma holders take many years to progress? (I read somewhere in this thread that there were a couple of teachers who were stuck in GEO1 for 5-7 years before they could progress up to GEO2 and the same duration applies from GEO2 to GEO3). With this in mind, I would like some advice and clarity on the below:

(1) If I were to continue with DipEd, after completion of the 2 years studies, will I be able to upgrade myself with a Degree during bond period? Will my salary scale and progression opportunities be increased and assessed as a Degree holder then?

(2) Im also seriously considering if I should go for upgrading to get a Degree, then enroll in the PGDE programme after. Will this be a better option? But then I will have to give up my DipEd chance.

(3) If I were to give up my DipEd chance to upgrade myself, will this affect my chance in my application for PGDE in future?

Thanks in advance
If you do relatively well for diped, you will be given chance to cross over to degree programme after 2 years
09-07-2020 04:16 PM
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DipEd vs PGDE

Hi everyone,

I chanced upon this thread when I was researching on teaching as a MOE GEO. I was recently shortlisted for DipEd to teach Pri Art.

After reading almost every page on this forum, I feel a little discouraged by the fact that Diploma holders have much slower progression, much lower salary scale. Of course I do understand that this is how the system works, since Degree holders spent more time and money getting the education levels they have and so on.

I am just very concerned, is it true that Diploma holders take many years to progress? (I read somewhere in this thread that there were a couple of teachers who were stuck in GEO1 for 5-7 years before they could progress up to GEO2 and the same duration applies from GEO2 to GEO3). With this in mind, I would like some advice and clarity on the below:

(1) If I were to continue with DipEd, after completion of the 2 years studies, will I be able to upgrade myself with a Degree during bond period? Will my salary scale and progression opportunities be increased and assessed as a Degree holder then?

(2) Im also seriously considering if I should go for upgrading to get a Degree, then enroll in the PGDE programme after. Will this be a better option? But then I will have to give up my DipEd chance.

(3) If I were to give up my DipEd chance to upgrade myself, will this affect my chance in my application for PGDE in future?

Thanks in advance
09-07-2020 04:13 PM
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How come? U get second upper in a relevant subject?
Passed psychometric test?
Interview went well? Showed interest?
Shouldnt be too big a problem.
there is no psychometric test
09-07-2020 03:57 PM
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I kept getting rejected in my application to be moe teacher
How come? U get second upper in a relevant subject?
Passed psychometric test?
Interview went well? Showed interest?
Shouldnt be too big a problem.
09-07-2020 03:47 PM
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Recurring topic here but I just need to get it out...

Just feeling the yearly jadedness because ranking is near and promotion is just over and got passed over again.

I know the exact reasons.
- I did not explicitly ask to be groomed.
- I am less caring of my own branding.

I think the system we grew up in encouraged us to think that as long as we do our work well, we get rewarded fairly.

The real world is more about luck, networking and presenting oneself as well.
I’m afraid the system you grew up in is unreal. You cannot penalise ppl for their ability to network and present themselves well. Instead of complaining abt the system, why not work on improving yourself so that you are able to fit in the “real” world? If you do not care abt your “branding”, how would you expect others to notice you or how would others even consider promoting you? If you appear to be nonchalant abt yourself, most likely the management would assume that there is no point in promoting this staff as he/she also does not appear to care abt it.
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