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Yesterday 11:54 PM
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Seeking advice here, is it a smart move to take up paralegal role in a big international firm if I cannot get a training contract?

What is the chance of transitioning from paralegal to associate? Is this uncommon or impossible?

On the side note, I will be qualified in another common law jurisdiction prior to my TC.
Don't know about other firms but in mine (MC) it is unheard of for paralegals to be converted into associates (unless there is some prior arrangement). Doesn't matter if you're qualified here or elsewhere. I even know of paralegals who came in from the big4 / mid-tier firms but never made the jump to associate. Plus, as a paralegal you're basically stuck doing admin and basic tasks forever.

Best to try your hardest to get a TC or pursue higher education.
Yesterday 08:28 PM
Unregistered Seeking advice here, is it a smart move to take up paralegal role in a big international firm if I cannot get a training contract?

What is the chance of transitioning from paralegal to associate? Is this uncommon or impossible?

On the side note, I will be qualified in another common law jurisdiction prior to my TC.
Yesterday 12:01 PM
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In this current pandemic, since corporate law is going to be dead for a few years, should I go and enroll at suss to do crim and fam law?
Never base your long-term decisions on short term circumstances.
Do something you're passionate about. Otherwise, do something you can live with.

Also, i agree with the previous comment. Corporate lawyers may see a slight dip now, but this is unlikely to last long. I assure you that capitalist sentiments remain alive and strong in in our country.
Yesterday 11:15 AM
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In this current pandemic, since corporate law is going to be dead for a few years, should I go and enroll at suss to do crim and fam law?

It seems like you know something we corporate lawyers don't. Could you enlighten us as to why corporate law is going to be dead, and for a few years at that?
Yesterday 11:03 AM
Unregistered In this current pandemic, since corporate law is going to be dead for a few years, should I go and enroll at suss to do crim and fam law?
Yesterday 10:33 AM
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agree 100%.

also wanna add that be very wary of sole counsel roles.
more often than not, the hours don't justify the paycut you'll have to take.
Sole counsel = sell backside + head on chopping block if anything goes wrong.
07-04-2020 03:20 PM
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Would this also work if I apply fresh to other places as a legal exec? Do I need to be with a firm to get called?
A legal exec is basically anyone in the law firm that has the legal knowledge to do lawyer-esque work but is not currently training and is not yet called.

Since it is April now, it is likely that you are in the middle of your TC. Finish your TC first. I don't think they can let you go on the basis that you failed Part B, but idk. It would also be really cruel to do that. You are allowed to complete your TC even though you failed Part B. Then, go talk to the partners and ask them whether they will retain you if you take Part B again come July.
07-04-2020 02:39 PM
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I think the more important question is: how is the company doing? and i don't just mean surface level checks on glassdoor.

Is it a listed company? What's was their Ebita? Ebita for the region? What is their pitch to the shareholders? who are the directors? are the directors industry people - what is their background? Any plan for growth in the region? Any retrenchments? CEO keep changing every 2/3 years?

You need to research the company as if you are an investor... because you're pretty much betting your future career that this company can remain alive and competitive for as long as you want to work for them.

I went in house... had such a terrible experience... went back to practice after 2 years. I'm not saying don't accept the offer... but you should go in with your eyes wide open. If the company isn't doing so well.... job security will become an issue... for sure... and as much as practice is stressful, i've pretty much never had to worry on a daily basis if i would be retrenched the next day. I was also a regional counsel. You still won't be privy to management decisions at this level... not high enough.

Sorry for the rant - PTSD from those 2 years.

Be careful. Thread carefully.

Don't burn bridges, make room so if you want to return in future there is still a road left to take.
agree 100%.

also wanna add that be very wary of sole counsel roles.
more often than not, the hours don't justify the paycut you'll have to take.
07-04-2020 01:59 PM
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This. Approach your law firm to see if they will take you as a Legal Exec. Don't expect to be paid much.

If you're asking 3k+, it's a no for me.
Would this also work if I apply fresh to other places as a legal exec? Do I need to be with a firm to get called?
07-04-2020 12:47 PM
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Are you currently training? If your firm is willing to keep you, then you can work for them as a legal exec until the next round of Part B starts (which is only 3 months away?)

If you are not training / your firm has decided to cut you after you failed then you might want to consider looking for alternative careers. You will need another year + to get called at the minimum, it's also expensive.
This. Approach your law firm to see if they will take you as a Legal Exec. Don't expect to be paid much.

If you're asking 3k+, it's a no for me.
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