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Today 05:26 PM
Unregistered PI and PD work are far from noble, but hey, everybody needs to put food on the table. Personally, I respect community lawyers way more than PI or PD lawyers.
Today 03:26 PM
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Your proposition is highly flawed for several reasons, which makes me doubt whether you are in practice.

1. "what if the AI bot can do it far better and with less mistakes" is a sweeping statement. If you do research and look at what those legal AI platforms can currently do at the moment, we are still at a stage where human input is highly needed and there is still a long time to come such a regime comes to place.

2. Every file/matter is different. If you are a lawyer, you will realise a good one will never simply use the cookie cutter or a copy and paste method or the while. Yes, precedents may be generated, but if you let AI do the work and back off from the matter, I wish you all the very best.

Don't simply make assumptions just because you keep reading articles on "how AI is disrupting the world." Do your own research.
Alright I am at the forefront of law and technology, and when we talk AI platforms we are not talking about those adopted by the big 4 currently but by the white shoe and magic circle.
Iím not the original OP. But let me tell you if you have not been in the legal teams of American banks like JPM and GS, you are way behind your timeÖ

A lot of the works are done in house today. Less work are being farm to the law firms, except for LOs. And LOs in the law firm can actually be done by a bot, things like contract express etc. yes programming needs to be done once, and that the partner can do and fine tune with a paralegal. Why Iím wasting time to explain this instead of writing my journals is simply because Iím trying to pay it forward. Iíve been shown quite a lot of kindness by my giants in the field.
Today 02:40 PM
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I suspect the future of law would be like that.

The very top (fch, deans list, commendation list) will always have a job. Whether in house, practice or govt.

The middle will hollow out.

Those with applied learning (eg TP dip law paralegals) will eventually be highly employable. They will do a lot of the work that require support.

Some posters said earlier that you need legal training to dispense legal advice. True. But what if the AI bot can do it far better and with less mistakes. The partner just need the paralegal to check once over and sign off.

So I donít know in this new business model, is there a future for being mediocre?

Your proposition is highly flawed for several reasons, which makes me doubt whether you are in practice.

1. "what if the AI bot can do it far better and with less mistakes" is a sweeping statement. If you do research and look at what those legal AI platforms can currently do at the moment, we are still at a stage where human input is highly needed and there is still a long time to come such a regime comes to place.

2. Every file/matter is different. If you are a lawyer, you will realise a good one will never simply use the cookie cutter or a copy and paste method or the while. Yes, precedents may be generated, but if you let AI do the work and back off from the matter, I wish you all the very best.

Don't simply make assumptions just because you keep reading articles on "how AI is disrupting the world." Do your own research.
Today 02:18 PM
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LOL I think I've seen at least 7 of those articles just this year alone
At least those dudes can write right.
Why so salty? Try to spend your free time writing otherwise keep quiet
Today 01:36 PM
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Another idiot who doesn't know what AI and all these other new technologies can and cannot do... If I see another article from some gungho B4 associate writing about the "range of exciting legal use cases for Blockchain" who thinks he's cutting edge I'm actually gonna puke
LOL I think I've seen at least 7 of those articles just this year alone
Today 01:27 PM
Unregistered Eh there's a lot of hype going on in legal tech. Nothing new here. SMU's centre for computational law is one of the responses to these trends. Read up the works of Wong Meng Weng.

When emails came about, naysayers were also talking about it spelling the doom of the legal profession

At this stage, there's too much human input in the practice of law for much of it to be replaced by AI.

And if AI reaches the level of sophistication where most legal functions can be replaced, don't forget there're many other industries ahead in line of us that would be replaced long before that.
Today 01:22 PM
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I suspect the future of law would be like that.

The very top (fch, deans list, commendation list) will always have a job. Whether in house, practice or govt.

The middle will hollow out.

Those with applied learning (eg TP dip law paralegals) will eventually be highly employable. They will do a lot of the work that require support.

Some posters said earlier that you need legal training to dispense legal advice. True. But what if the AI bot can do it far better and with less mistakes. The partner just need the paralegal to check once over and sign off.

So I donít know in this new business model, is there a future for being mediocre?
Another idiot who doesn't know what AI and all these other new technologies can and cannot do... If I see another article from some gungho B4 associate writing about the "range of exciting legal use cases for Blockchain" who thinks he's cutting edge I'm actually gonna puke
Today 01:07 PM
Unregistered I suspect the future of law would be like that.

The very top (fch, deans list, commendation list) will always have a job. Whether in house, practice or govt.

The middle will hollow out.

Those with applied learning (eg TP dip law paralegals) will eventually be highly employable. They will do a lot of the work that require support.

Some posters said earlier that you need legal training to dispense legal advice. True. But what if the AI bot can do it far better and with less mistakes. The partner just need the paralegal to check once over and sign off.

So I donít know in this new business model, is there a future for being mediocre?
Today 12:21 PM
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Really sad that juniors on this forum fixated on money money money.

Law is a profession like the apprentice.
You train under a good mentor for a stipend. You learn a craft for a lifetime.
If one chases after money, then there is no nobility in the work.

Law is one of the oldest profession in the world, existing long before doctors existed.

Itís sad that comparison with a few internationals and then law folks here assume that is what everyone else is paid.

Do you know how many lawyers in the UK/US are doing PI kind of work as lawyers? Do they whine and ask why they are not in the white shoe etc? Because someone has to do the job, and they believe in the nobility of the legal profession.
Its a bold assumption to say that PI lawyers believe in the "nobility" of the legal profession. Ever heard of the term ambulance-chasers?

Do you know how much the top plaintiff lawyers in the US make? Easily several times more than senior rainmakers in the top white shoe firms. They are legends.

In Singapore, I bet you don't know how much the founder of Hoh Law Corporation makes. It is A LOT. Yes, that Hoh Law that law students all look down on. He's literally a businessman, not a lawyer.

These people do crap law work not because of some sense of "nobility" but because they didnt have the inclination or grades to get in the top corporate firms. But in the end it doesn't matter because if they're good, they will make it rain either way.
Today 12:13 PM
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All these posters making reference to Milbank and then worse, using some statistics from the UK, or meme forums/Reddit etc, pls wake up. There is no short squeeze here.
Anyway salaries wonít go up. This forum existed since 2009. Do you see salaries going up? No. And I think with automation and all it will go down.
How to join politics? Seems like the only stable and high-paying jobs left for LLB holders are in politics and civil service. Local politics jobs at least not in high demand so lower entry criteria. Iron rice bowl job plus possible a million pa if you 'make partner' ie become minister. What else am I missing??
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