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04-06-2019 07:52 AM
Unregistered Need some advice
I am currently 5months into a new job in civil service, but i dont like the role
I am going to have my mid year performance review session with my Dir soon. Im not sure which is the best decision to take

1.) ask for secondment opportunities? Is it possible to rotate into a new role before the 1year emplacement mark? Has anyone done it before?
2.) don’t mention anything about my intention to move. Instead, resign and find another role myself elsewhere

Which option above is the wisest to take?
Any advice will be appreciated
03-06-2019 12:07 PM
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Your reporting officer or colleagues in the same dept able to teach you?

I have work in a few jobs and regardless of whether it is a job which I have experience in already, I still have ppl to guide me in at least the first week of work.
Exactly! I thought even with experience, the operations from one company differ from another, some form of on job training will be necessary. And now I have to even prepare for follow up presentation on a presentation that I have never attended.

Anyway, no one can help, as it is a newly setup unit, the work information was all over the place either some in scattered written form, some inside the heads of people, or some floating in the air as verbal bubbles (that is, no records).

I don't know if I am being unreasonable or is because I have not seen the world enough. I was just expecting for at least a proper on job training for proper handover and job takeon. Am I expecting too much? Or is it not uncommon for company to be like this, as in "expect you to know the work withour training"?
03-06-2019 01:55 AM
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Same person as the original poster....

Mentioning about the "gap" in original expextation for the role versa the actual, did anyone encountered situations that no training was given at all, and you are immediately thrown into the job and expected to reply questions for the job?

Like what I have mentioned in my original post, I have made it explicitly clear in both verbal and written format about my complete lack of experience in a particular skillset and did highlighted my request during interview on the availability of on job training to get familiar with the process of the organisation and the tools used... Unfortunately none of that was provided.
This is getting abit crazy as I am now expected to answer questions on job even though I am completely clueless about the process and tools.

By the way, responding to some of the earlier replies, no this is not my first job, have been in the workforce for many years. But this is the first time I have encountered such a "messed up" newcomer's on boarding.

In short, I just felt they have hired the wrong person (probably because they couldn't find anyone).
Your reporting officer or colleagues in the same dept able to teach you?

I have work in a few jobs and regardless of whether it is a job which I have experience in already, I still have ppl to guide me in at least the first week of work.
03-06-2019 01:12 AM
Unregistered Same person as the original poster....

Mentioning about the "gap" in original expextation for the role versa the actual, did anyone encountered situations that no training was given at all, and you are immediately thrown into the job and expected to reply questions for the job?

Like what I have mentioned in my original post, I have made it explicitly clear in both verbal and written format about my complete lack of experience in a particular skillset and did highlighted my request during interview on the availability of on job training to get familiar with the process of the organisation and the tools used... Unfortunately none of that was provided.
This is getting abit crazy as I am now expected to answer questions on job even though I am completely clueless about the process and tools.

By the way, responding to some of the earlier replies, no this is not my first job, have been in the workforce for many years. But this is the first time I have encountered such a "messed up" newcomer's on boarding.

In short, I just felt they have hired the wrong person (probably because they couldn't find anyone).
25-05-2019 01:55 PM
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good question. they asked me the same thing. one of the key questions i asked them was their culture and turnover vis a vis the industry.
i told them i cannot know for sure and they also have to take a risk with me by asking me about the things they need to know to make that decision. they also do not want to make a wrong hiring decision so we were very open. the senior staff says i will tell u everything that is helpful for you to know so I asked everything that I prepared beforehand. He ended "I think I have told you everything so would you like to join us?". I was a little taken aback before I clarified if they were making an offer, they replied they have to get all the due diligence done but as it stands, yes. long story short, i joined them, and was given a lot of opportunities to use my strengths. wld probably retire here.
Yea. Figure that question would be ask by the interviewers. Anyway happy for you in your new job.
25-05-2019 09:58 AM
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Dun mind me asking. If you told them of the reason of poor fit in your new job, how do you answer if you they ask you how do you know u will be a good fit in their company?
good question. they asked me the same thing. one of the key questions i asked them was their culture and turnover vis a vis the industry.
i told them i cannot know for sure and they also have to take a risk with me by asking me about the things they need to know to make that decision. they also do not want to make a wrong hiring decision so we were very open. the senior staff says i will tell u everything that is helpful for you to know so I asked everything that I prepared beforehand. He ended "I think I have told you everything so would you like to join us?". I was a little taken aback before I clarified if they were making an offer, they replied they have to get all the due diligence done but as it stands, yes. long story short, i joined them, and was given a lot of opportunities to use my strengths. wld probably retire here.
25-05-2019 02:44 AM
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i tendered 5 weeks into the job. cut loss. if they confirm me, my notice period is 3 months being a member of senior management. recruiter was not happy but my sanity was more important. i went for interview and got a job immediately even though they asked me why I was interviewing there when I just got a new job.
I am now 5 years in the company, and am very happy.
in short, just move forward and be honest on your reasons to move, a poor fit is a very good reason in my opinion.
Dun mind me asking. If you told them of the reason of poor fit in your new job, how do you answer if you they ask you how do you know u will be a good fit in their company?
24-05-2019 08:39 PM
Unregistered i tendered 5 weeks into the job. cut loss. if they confirm me, my notice period is 3 months being a member of senior management. recruiter was not happy but my sanity was more important. i went for interview and got a job immediately even though they asked me why I was interviewing there when I just got a new job.
I am now 5 years in the company, and am very happy.
in short, just move forward and be honest on your reasons to move, a poor fit is a very good reason in my opinion.
24-05-2019 05:37 PM
Unregistered Do not force yourself in the role you are in currently if you really can’t see your future with your company . Just quickly find a new job via job site and quit asap. Do not even include in your resume if you have worked less than 3 months .
24-05-2019 03:09 PM
Unregistered I suggest quit asap and don't include in CV. Small gap easy to explain. But job market seems slow now. So assess the jobless risk too.
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