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30-10-2021 10:21 AM
Unregistered
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take away your (actual) job, take away your team (if you director level), put you on unreasonable/impossible tasks, frequent scolding/public humiliation...

but at the end of the day, if you got a thick face, and be very careful not to make any disciplinary mistakes, you still get to linger around for many many years
lmao, you can't handle workplace politics lah
12-05-2017 11:38 AM
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I will not say that public sector is iron rice bowl. In the past yes... But presently, it's not. I've seen how even senior ppl have been managed out. Not worth takin the drop especially if it's security you are looking for. 2cents
I think these are 2 different things. When we say a PS job is an iron rice bowl, what we meant was that even in times of recession, chances of being retrenched is very low. Your example of being managed out applies to both private and public sector. There are no openings out there which can offer you a salary while doing a bad job.

So to the original poster who is offered 2900, do look at 2 things:
1) overall package. Usually PS will have an avg of 15mths annually; and
2) Stable increment of around 3% avg annually.
12-05-2017 10:01 AM
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Hi do you mind sharing how does one get managed out?
take away your (actual) job, take away your team (if you director level), put you on unreasonable/impossible tasks, frequent scolding/public humiliation...

but at the end of the day, if you got a thick face, and be very careful not to make any disciplinary mistakes, you still get to linger around for many many years
31-08-2014 10:36 AM
Xyz
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I will not say that public sector is iron rice bowl. In the past yes... But presently, it's not. I've seen how even senior ppl have been managed out. Not worth takin the drop especially if it's security you are looking for. 2cents
Hi do you mind sharing how does one get managed out?
31-08-2014 09:24 AM
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Hi All,

I'm Ella, 38 years old, currently holding sales engineer position in private sector, salary $4,100 monthly(included transportation of $1,000). However public sector offers, technical officer, salary $2,900 monthly. Should I take up take up the job offer? This is because I heard that working in public sector more secure, is that true? I would like to know, from $2,900 to $4,100, take how many years to match my current salary? Please advise. Thanks
I will not say that public sector is iron rice bowl. In the past yes... But presently, it's not. I've seen how even senior ppl have been managed out. Not worth takin the drop especially if it's security you are looking for. 2cents
31-08-2014 01:30 AM
Ella Zhang
Need someone to give me advice.

Hi All,

I'm Ella, 38 years old, currently holding sales engineer position in private sector, salary $4,100 monthly(included transportation of $1,000). However public sector offers, technical officer, salary $2,900 monthly. Should I take up take up the job offer? This is because I heard that working in public sector more secure, is that true? I would like to know, from $2,900 to $4,100, take how many years to match my current salary? Please advise. Thanks
17-10-2012 02:08 PM
adrianfoo 5700k

so high pay.........
27-08-2012 04:57 PM
Unregistered im in c.s.
32 yrs old. been in min for 4+ yrs.
6k+ per month gross.
1st class hon w masters from ivy league. non-scholar.

Agree that ur fren is likely to have overstated his salary. either that or included his bonus into the calc.
I guess whether u shld jump depends on why.
if money, dun bother, cos the skills aren't so transferable.
if work-life balance, its aint exactly 9-5 in c.s. i typically go home at 7. but half the time, I have to log on from home and during the weekends...
27-08-2012 03:03 PM
androidguy
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$7K is second bar of MX 11 or MX10. It is unlikely someone from the private sector will be given MX10 as that is supervisory job aka section head with a few years of experience doing that function. It is also unlikely that a new hire will be put into second bar as that is has a performance criteria.

Hence, you may get a pay cut if you consider monthly salary. However, annual compensation can be the same as civil service pay better bonuses depending on economy, than SMEs.
interesting... My bonus for the past 2 years was $24k consecutively... which amounts to about 4.5 months and 4.2 months respectively for 2010 and 2011. Civil service able to top this? All I know about civil service is they seem to be paying out lots of bonuses throughout the year instead of a 1 time payout at the end of the financial year.
24-08-2012 08:14 PM
poor and stupid
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$7K is second bar of MX 11 or MX10. It is unlikely someone from the private sector will be given MX10 as that is supervisory job aka section head with a few years of experience doing that function. It is also unlikely that a new hire will be put into second bar as that is has a performance criteria.

Hence, you may get a pay cut if you consider monthly salary. However, annual compensation can be the same as civil service pay better bonuses depending on economy, than SMEs.
Of cos la, who duno working in SME is 10x work and 0.1 the remuneration. But lucky gahmen never intro minimum wage scheme else SME will fail and will become 0 work 0 pay
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