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11-07-2012 12:43 PM
Hermit
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Unfortunately for them, the conventional "doctors" that most people know and come to accept (and respect) are medical doctors and PhD holders who earned the title through sweat over their brows (study, research, publish).

In that Straits Times article (or was it Sunday Times?), it seems the writer was criticizing those who bought PhD titles.

Personally, I have nothing against people using bought titles, but I'll feel a little uneasy when they flaunt the titles like a rich tai-tai flaunting her diamond ring. You don't see LKY flaunting his countless honorary doctorates. He doesn't need to. Similarly, if you're a successful businessman, your success is already clear for all to see and speaks for itself. No need for any six-letter title or three-letter degree.

But using a bought PhD to cheat is another matter altogether.
I like how you put it, adbie.

Real success is when one is finally comfortable with one's own identity and achievements. No need to depend on affirmation from others. No need for PhDs.

( I confess. I also do not have a PhD. In fact, I failed a few papers in the second year of my university studies. )
11-07-2012 12:48 AM
Sam Adams I want a PhD just so I can walk into a hospital and introduce myself as Dr. Adams.
09-07-2012 09:16 PM
SGWorker Along the same topic of cheating and fraud in the education industry, a recent news story about a well known university - CUNY's Baruch College is under investigation for grade fixing and forgery. CUNY's Baruch College under fire over forgery

I know that the general advise before enrolling into a school would be to do a thorough research about the institution - ranking, history, reputation, etc, but I would think that many of the students in Baruch College would not have expected their school to be blacklisted like that.
06-07-2009 06:21 PM
quek
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
In the field of business, we have Doctor of Business Administration or Phd whatsoever. Look at this list of people

- Expressions International founder "Dr" Theresa Chew.
- Bread Talk founder "Dr" George Quek.
- "Dr" T. Chandroo who runs 60 Montessori kindergartens.
- "Dr" Clemen Chiang who runs options trading seminars.

Did they not managed to start or found a thriving business? Have they not achieved what many Doctors of Business not managed to do?
Unfortunately for them, the conventional "doctors" that most people know and come to accept (and respect) are medical doctors and PhD holders who earned the title through sweat over their brows (study, research, publish).

In that Straits Times article (or was it Sunday Times?), it seems the writer was criticizing those who bought PhD titles.

Personally, I have nothing against people using bought titles, but I'll feel a little uneasy when they flaunt the titles like a rich tai-tai flaunting her diamond ring. You don't see LKY flaunting his countless honorary doctorates. He doesn't need to. Similarly, if you're a successful businessman, your success is already clear for all to see and speaks for itself. No need for any six-letter title or three-letter degree.

But using a bought PhD to cheat is another matter altogether.
06-07-2009 05:21 PM
Unregistered
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If your definition of success is winning the Nobel prize, then lots of professors are total failures.

It's not easy to become a prof and it's even harder to become a tenured one in a good school. That itself is good enough for me to call a prof successful, not to mention that tenured profs in private institutions (especially those in America) earn a comfortable living doing research, teaching and consulting.

They do what they like and they earn good salaries. Isn't this "successful" enough?

At the extreme end, there are those millionaire-entrepreneurs who "retire" into professorships in Stanford, MIT and the like.

Not sure if such examples exist in NUS, NTU and SMU, but I do have respect for some profs here who are leading experts in their fields.

Discovering and contributing to the wealth of human knowledge is the goal and dream of all researchers. I am pretty sure many researchers will not consider themselves as successful simply because of the pay they are drawing. Of course I wouldn't go as far as to call all professors as failures, however I doubt they will consider themselves as highly successful in their chosen field if they had not been able to make a significant contribution or discovery. Unless they are like you mentioned, top in their field. But how many phd holders are at the top?

In the field of business, we have Doctor of Business Administration or Phd whatsoever. Look at this list of people

- Expressions International founder "Dr" Theresa Chew.
- Bread Talk founder "Dr" George Quek.
- "Dr" T. Chandroo who runs 60 Montessori kindergartens.
- "Dr" Clemen Chiang who runs options trading seminars.

Did they not managed to start or found a thriving business? Have they not achieved what many Doctors of Business not managed to do?
06-07-2009 11:52 AM
quek
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Hi all a question here. would you rather be

1) A quack doctorate of business but possess the business experience and financial successes behind you or;

2) A legitimite doctore of Business with alot of theories and paper but no successful business under your name and not to say no financial successes?

My point? Not many of my professors are successful. None won a nobel prize.
If your definition of success is winning the Nobel prize, then lots of professors are total failures.

It's not easy to become a prof and it's even harder to become a tenured one in a good school. That itself is good enough for me to call a prof successful, not to mention that tenured profs in private institutions (especially those in America) earn a comfortable living doing research, teaching and consulting.

They do what they like and they earn good salaries. Isn't this "successful" enough?

At the extreme end, there are those millionaire-entrepreneurs who "retire" into professorships in Stanford, MIT and the like.

Not sure if such examples exist in NUS, NTU and SMU, but I do have respect for some profs here who are leading experts in their fields.
06-07-2009 11:01 AM
Unregistered Hi all a question here. would you rather be

1) A quack doctorate of business but possess the business experience and financial successes behind you or;

2) A legitimite doctore of Business with alot of theories and paper but no successful business under your name and not to say no financial successes?

My point? Not many of my professors are successful. None won a nobel prize.
15-06-2009 11:45 PM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by fake doctors-- View Post
Admin thank you for pointing out these fraudsters. May I add that my friend used to work for Teresa Chew, lady boss of Expressions, and he said she was ADAMANT in making sure everyone called her 'doctor chew'

Any Expression employee can attest to that. Such a shame that it's just an ego boost totally undeserved in the end.
Haha, "Doctor Chew"... I heard her in a radio chat show some time back. She couldn't even speak proper English! BUt let's give her the benefit of doubt - she is indeed quite successful in business and maybe she's deserving of the doctor title because of her business acumen.
13-06-2009 03:57 PM
Unregistered 2008 same LTCM guys repeated history with JWM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122151230448138447.html
19-10-2008 05:03 PM
fake doctors--
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Admin thank you for pointing out these fraudsters. May I add that my friend used to work for Teresa Chew, lady boss of Expressions, and he said she was ADAMANT in making sure everyone called her 'doctor chew'

Any Expression employee can attest to that. Such a shame that it's just an ego boost totally undeserved in the end.
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