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20-08-2011 12:12 AM
Unregistered
Ask for more

Its just not last drawn salary, its your skills plus the impression you have left in the hiring process. An average salary for a 5+ yrs is more than S$4k. So be prepared to negotiate hard.

btw I'm an Indian and I'm not here to undercut anyone.. I know how to live with empathy for everyone.
23-05-2011 11:26 AM
curryrice since u are talent, don't waste time just ask for $4K. What is $2K+ this days. Then again, India's indian can always undercut you. You have to be mentally prepared you will not get the job!
23-05-2011 10:39 AM
lazyplane
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
DO NOT EVER TELL YOUR EMPLOYER YOUR SALARY. First to declare in salary negotiation loses.
Every competent HR function in a company will ask you for details.
You can dont reply, but they will ask you in interview. you can give vague answers or a range, but they will press you for it. Even senior management get asked full details..

My advice is just state facts. Give them what they want to know but also ask them what the job worth and let HR quote you after you provide the details.

If it is a good company, they will know market value for the job.
If they try to play punk in quoting a super low salary, then my question is why r u considering if u think u r better than that ? That when the truth hurts right ? u know u may not get that salary u r asking for. Be honest with yourself. Everybody wants to earn out of the world salary but can everyone get it ?

Anyway, for those who like to think HR is a stingy department that always tries to "max" it employees by giving low salary... wake up ! ...HR is a management representation in that company.

IF management wants to give high salary, HR will give high salary.
So if u r paid low, likely management also thinks low.. but they just dont want to tell you the bad news directly.. they ask hr to do so.. ha ha

comments welcome !
23-05-2011 10:01 AM
Unregistered
Qualification not matched

Your programming experience is not exactly aligned with their requirements, it is unlikely they treat you at a senior level. There are many who have matched qualifications and can do the job better than you at a cheaper salary.
23-05-2011 09:33 AM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by Windy View Post
4K is 42% increment over 2.8K. Depending on your hiring manger, that may not be acceptable. Nevertheless, luck plays a great part in one's career .
DO NOT EVER TELL YOUR EMPLOYER YOUR SALARY. First to declare in salary negotiation loses.
30-03-2010 04:08 PM
Windy
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Originally Posted by salseek View Post
may i ask 4000 sig$ for the following position
//requriement:
Software Engineer in IT(home-security,finger,face,track or passport scanning)
middle level-2year
c++,mfc
part java,c#,linux

//my qualification
34years old
BS and MS of computer science graduated from China
3 years expeience in shchool lab for algorithm,with two project and three paper
4years experience in two company, R&D
2years experience(java,c#) in singapore

in all i have more than 6 years experience in their relative field.

now i am with PR
current salary:
basic 2800/month,
AWS 2 months salary
4K is 42% increment over 2.8K. Depending on your hiring manger, that may not be acceptable. Nevertheless, luck plays a great part in one's career .
04-03-2010 10:54 AM
IT Manager
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Why be a programmer when you can be an architect? Being a programmer is being cheaper, but being an architect is being better.

I'm giving advice to salseeker to _not_ remain as a programmer, but work at a higher level. This is the way to earn more.

I have to add this: some architects just talk and consult their way to the top, but they actually do not have much substance. Whether you are talented or not, learn from them.

A distant analogy: why be a farmer when you can get rich trading the produce?
Like I said the two are totally different job scopes. A programmer may not have the necessary skills to be a s/w architects, and vice-versa. Your experience with the untalented s/w architects do not justify that programmers can be s/w architects, there are many other factors to consider how they manage to be there.

And what advise you gave salseeker in your previous post? Please read what you wrote again.

Stating a sound analogy does not make an argument sound. But its true that one can still learn a thing or two from anybody including the untalented ones.
04-03-2010 10:33 AM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by IT Manager View Post
He is asking about programming job not s/w architects. The job scopes are totally different. Race has got nothing to do with the pay packages, its all about their profile.

salseek, it all depends on the employers' budget and their requirements. Since they posted middle-level 2 year, I doubt they are willing to pay much. But of course you can still try your luck.
Why be a programmer when you can be an architect? Being a programmer is being cheaper, but being an architect is being better.

I'm giving advice to salseeker to _not_ remain as a programmer, but work at a higher level. This is the way to earn more.

I have to add this: some architects just talk and consult their way to the top, but they actually do not have much substance. Whether you are talented or not, learn from them.

A distant analogy: why be a farmer when you can get rich trading the produce?
04-03-2010 09:49 AM
IT Manager
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
10k is more appropriate. other foreign talents, though mostly whites, earn that amount by doing high level designs. they call themselves architects. no programming needed.
He is asking about programming job not s/w architects. The job scopes are totally different. Race has got nothing to do with the pay packages, its all about their profile.

salseek, it all depends on the employers' budget and their requirements. Since they posted middle-level 2 year, I doubt they are willing to pay much. But of course you can still try your luck.
04-03-2010 09:01 AM
Unregistered
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yeah, you deserve to ask for $4k. But a programmer from India with your qualifications will only ask for $2k. So how?
10k is more appropriate. other foreign talents, though mostly whites, earn that amount by doing high level designs. they call themselves architects. no programming needed.
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