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Today 12:00 PM
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I'm really baffled at why you guys keep discussing this US/UK JD/LLM ranking thing so much ....
This is because a bunch of unemployed KCL grads have too much time on their hands and are trying to justify their mediocre LLBs which is currently less valuable than toilet paper during CB.
Today 10:35 AM
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Only simmons pays higher than big4 pay. The rest are approximately (or slightly below) big 4.
^, except ashurst is closer to mid sized pay
Today 08:50 AM
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Does anybody what NQ Associate pay is for international firm JLAs i.e
- Simmons & Simmons JWS
- Norton Rose Fulbright Ascendant
- AshurstADT
- Morgan Lewis Stamford

I already know CC and Latham pay very highly
Only simmons pays higher than big4 pay. The rest are approximately (or slightly below) big 4.
Today 07:03 AM
Unregistered Does anybody what NQ Associate pay is for international firm JLAs i.e
- Simmons & Simmons JWS
- Norton Rose Fulbright Ascendant
- AshurstADT
- Morgan Lewis Stamford

I already know CC and Latham pay very highly
Yesterday 11:28 PM
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Outside of rankings Harvard Law has always been considered n.o. 1 by those in the US industry. Just look at their number of supreme court clerkships.
Harvard has the most clerkships because they have the largest cohort by far, at around 500. Yale is widely considered to be the most prestigious law school in the US. Historically, they have had the lowest acceptance rates and highest percentage of graduates heading into academia. Also low class sizes means its spending per student is through the roof. Many Harvard professors at Harvard law school are Yale alumni.

It is only outside the states that people have the misconception of Harvard > Yale law, because Harvard is the more internationally renown university. Most applicants would turn down Harvard/Stanford for Yale.
Yesterday 09:00 PM
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I'm really baffled at why you guys keep discussing this US/UK JD/LLM ranking thing so much ....

As a lawyer who studied locally who lateraled into a US firm, I can honestly say that none of my colleagues who also went to NUS/SMU for their undergrad have a masters (or even if they do, they did it during their 4 year LLB at NUS). It is unnecessary for practice, as evidenced by the fact that they managed to make it here regardless.

Furthermore, do you all really think that anyone who is good enough to get into a JD program at harvard or yale will bother coming to SG anyway?

Can you guys focus the discussion on what actually relates to us -> salaries in the SG law context?
This. If I have a Yale/Stanford JD why would I be looking at practicing in Singapore lol.
Yesterday 08:37 PM
Unregistered I'm really baffled at why you guys keep discussing this US/UK JD/LLM ranking thing so much ....

As a lawyer who studied locally who lateraled into a US firm, I can honestly say that none of my colleagues who also went to NUS/SMU for their undergrad have a masters (or even if they do, they did it during their 4 year LLB at NUS). It is unnecessary for practice, as evidenced by the fact that they managed to make it here regardless.

Furthermore, do you all really think that anyone who is good enough to get into a JD program at harvard or yale will bother coming to SG anyway?

Can you guys focus the discussion on what actually relates to us -> salaries in the SG law context?
Yesterday 08:28 PM
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Yale and Stanford are automatic exemptions if you do apply. Yale has always been the top law school in America, with Stanford/Harvard fighting over rank 2 and 3.
Outside of rankings Harvard Law has always been considered n.o. 1 by those in the US industry. Just look at their number of supreme court clerkships.
Yesterday 08:21 PM
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S tier US/UK: Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Oxford/Cambridge

A tier US: Columbia/Chicago/New York

Local tier: NUS/SMU

A tier UK: LSE/UCL/KCL

B tier UK/S tier AU: Durham/Bristol/Nottingham/Warwick/QMUL/Birmingham/Melbourne/Sydney/UNSW/ANU

A tier AU: Monash/Queensland/Western Australia/Adelaide

NZ/B tier AU: Auckland/Wellington/Tasmania

C tier AU: Murdoch/Flinders
Are the UK degrees (outside of Oxbridge) even worth anything rn? Especially with the rise of nationalism as seen from brexit and the racial violence from covid... Won't Singapore born graduates of these prestigious universities just be delegated to third or second class status? Seems like going overseas is also no guarantee of a better life abroad...
Yesterday 07:21 PM
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Hmm, just considering JD programs, I'm not sure why some US schools are this list given that they're not in the list of approved universities (e.g. Yale, Stanford). Granted, these are good schools, but their JDs are not accepted here.

It's a different story if you're considering the LLM programs from these US schools. But then again, it's easier to get into an LLM program so judging someone's ability from their LLM institute is not entirely fair or accurate.
Yale and Stanford are automatic exemptions if you do apply. Yale has always been the top law school in America, with Stanford/Harvard fighting over rank 2 and 3.
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