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I was one of those AAA students who applied for Accounting in 2015 but only joined in 2017 due to NS. I blame it on my lack of awareness and motivation during NS that I was unaware that Accounting became a sh1+ course over that short period. Ended up joining audit following the typical route that most ppl take.
Spent 3 years in EY and got my CA. Throughout the 3 years I was very unmotivated due to the low pay and bad wlb. However, I learnt a few impt workplace skills that helped me to survive the 3 years and even got 1 year of high performer (lol). The most impt one I learnt from my ex-senior is “Manage upwards”. Set your expectations with your bosses and set up boundaries. I know it is easier said than done with all those b4std managers in EY but you need to take a step away from work and reconsider your life priorities. This is just a job, nothing worth sacrificing your health for!
On the issue of msians working in audit in SG, I feel that it is a normal business decision needed for audit firms to even operate. However, they do get the short end of the stick when moving on to other non-audit roles. So as local grads in the accounting profession, make use of the advantage you have and leave when the time is right. We may have made a bad decision studying accounting but we can still make better decisions going forward.
Okay not even sure what I wanted to say anymore but 加油把公司干倒闭！
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| Yesterday 11:51 PM |
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Hello senior. I’ve always been curious about your generation.
Can explain why your days people who studied hard would willing choose to go accounting? What’s so attractive about the long hours and relatively non competitive starting salaries?
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Yea, I’m also curious.
What are the work ethics of this generation of people? Do they see their efforts being rewarded? Do they feel proud of their job (auditor, accountant, etc.)? Did they choose accounting because it’s a stable job or prestigious back then?
And did they regret it now?
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| Yesterday 11:42 PM |
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Is it even worth it to endure the 3 years in audit?
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| Yesterday 11:23 PM |
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It’s just a cycle.
I hated my managers when I was associate.
Now I understand how much things behind the scenes the managers did and how much they protected us.
They will grow out of it, but a new batch will come in with the same complains.
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Please name what you actually do instead of just throwing words around
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| Yesterday 11:15 PM |
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Haha yea recently kaypoh on how is younger gen doing so took a look here. But leaving this thread soon le.
Here does show some similar reality to the commercial la.
Mid career le in our 30s... But aiya not all AAA batch so up there go do satki FP&A or consulting mah. Some of us that stayed in this industry got do commercial accounting after short stint w b4. Those that left the industry go do property/banking/investment/risk/insurance/Analytics/ whereever that earns better $ and wlb lo.
I would say accounting don't earn as much compared to those categories above. And the lost of attractiveness in accounting major over the years also gave us a toll. Big bosses like CFO only lookup to FP&A and Business analytics. Nowonder ppl say Accounting is seen as cost centres and burden causing problem to everyone. When we really need headcount, not approved. But not the case for Analytics team.
Didnt expect things to be so bad now hor... haha.
And it is nowonder,
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Hello senior. I’ve always been curious about your generation.
Can explain why your days people who studied hard would willing choose to go accounting? What’s so attractive about the long hours and relatively non competitive starting salaries?
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| Yesterday 10:24 PM |
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I'm the poor sod you're replying to. Clearly mine isn't as sweet as the others' since I still work like a dog. Have to say it's better than audit since I can wfh because no one is in office from 7pm, and I can don't work when on MC since there is no slave culture. I still work until 8-9pm on good days, and 2am on bad days which I would say is close to my audit hours.
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Thanks for sharing. Appreciate it 🙏
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| Yesterday 10:09 PM |
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Is fpa workload comparable to audit or slightly better ?
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I'm the poor sod you're replying to. Clearly mine isn't as sweet as the others' since I still work like a dog. Have to say it's better than audit since I can wfh because no one is in office from 7pm, and I can don't work when on MC since there is no slave culture. I still work until 8-9pm on good days, and 2am on bad days which I would say is close to my audit hours.
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| Yesterday 08:05 PM |
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How many countries do you cover and how big is your team? Sounds pretty sweet. Mine only has 3 people for global so we're perpetually swamped until I feel like quitting just after 5 months. Is yours a local firm or western firm?
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Is fpa workload comparable to audit or slightly better ?
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| Yesterday 04:44 PM |
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Hours are delicious, 9-6, sometimes can leave earlier if get my BAU done quickly. Only OT one day every month for closing. and that ends at about 8pm at worst or 9pm if got last min changes. But of course not every fpna role is so good i believe.
Pay i got a 10% bump (ya it’s lower that what i hoped, but what to do i no prior exp), beyond that i cant say. But the point is i decided to leave because i was okay with this pay in the medium term, but overall long term im quite sure will continue to progress.
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my previous fpa job was cover mountain cover sea job scope. smlj also do. we even need to help to do GL accounting and prepare tax provisions. wtf? really squeeze until dry. i left after 1 year.
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| Yesterday 03:09 PM |
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You how old? That batch should be well into mid career by now already.
Suggest you don’t mix around here if you don’t want to be wrongly associated.. now is different already.
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Haha yea recently kaypoh on how is younger gen doing so took a look here. But leaving this thread soon le.
Here does show some similar reality to the commercial la.
Mid career le in our 30s... But aiya not all AAA batch so up there go do satki FP&A or consulting mah. Some of us that stayed in this industry got do commercial accounting after short stint w b4. Those that left the industry go do property/banking/investment/risk/insurance/Analytics/ whereever that earns better $ and wlb lo.
I would say accounting don't earn as much compared to those categories above. And the lost of attractiveness in accounting major over the years also gave us a toll. Big bosses like CFO only lookup to FP&A and Business analytics. Nowonder ppl say Accounting is seen as cost centres and burden causing problem to everyone. When we really need headcount, not approved. But not the case for Analytics team.
Didnt expect things to be so bad now hor... haha.
And it is nowonder,
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