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Yesterday 07:36 AM
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Hi, its completely possible. I'm an indonesian working at the orange firm, joined last year as a fresh grad. Here got a lot of indonesian experienced hires too.
Hi! Thank you for your response 😁, its very great knowing that. Do you have any contact that i can reach to ask a bit more about it? But if you want some privacy then its also okay ill also respect it 😊
30-11-2020 02:43 PM
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Hi guys, want to ask, do Indonesian undergraduate accounting student can also apply in big4 SG? Im from international class and got magna cumlaude. But when i see linkedin, walah the big4 team in sg is filled with ppl from highly reputable universities (NUS, NTU, etc), high competition eh?. Also, can they hire an expat? I've landed an internship with the orange firm in Indo, and intended to stay here for 2 yrs to secure the SA position, and after that move to SG big4.

What do you guys think, is it possible for me to go there? and if yes, is it better to go from freshgrad, or secure the SA position first then continued the SA position there? thank you

PS: the reason i want to move to big 4 SG is because the SG strong currency lol, the pay in here is very low compared to the one in sg (due to the low gdp per capita and weak purchasing power parity), dont hate me pls
Hi, its completely possible. I'm an indonesian working at the orange firm, joined last year as a fresh grad. Here got a lot of indonesian experienced hires too.
29-11-2020 03:59 AM
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Hi guys, want to ask, do Indonesian undergraduate accounting student can also apply in big4 SG? Im from international class and got magna cumlaude. But when i see linkedin, walah the big4 team in sg is filled with ppl from highly reputable universities (NUS, NTU, etc), high competition eh?. Also, can they hire an expat? I've landed an internship with the orange firm in Indo, and intended to stay here for 2 yrs to secure the SA position, and after that move to SG big4.

What do you guys think, is it possible for me to go there? and if yes, is it better to go from freshgrad, or secure the SA position first then continued the SA position there? thank you

PS: the reason i want to move to big 4 SG is because the SG strong currency lol, the pay in here is very low compared to the one in sg (due to the low gdp per capita and weak purchasing power parity), dont hate me pls
PSS: the undergraduate im referring is a bachelor's degree (4 yrs program)
29-11-2020 03:51 AM
Unregistered Hi guys, want to ask, do Indonesian undergraduate accounting student can also apply in big4 SG? Im from international class and got magna cumlaude. But when i see linkedin, walah the big4 team in sg is filled with ppl from highly reputable universities (NUS, NTU, etc), high competition eh?. Also, can they hire an expat? I've landed an internship with the orange firm in Indo, and intended to stay here for 2 yrs to secure the SA position, and after that move to SG big4.

What do you guys think, is it possible for me to go there? and if yes, is it better to go from freshgrad, or secure the SA position first then continued the SA position there? thank you

PS: the reason i want to move to big 4 SG is because the SG strong currency lol, the pay in here is very low compared to the one in sg (due to the low gdp per capita and weak purchasing power parity), dont hate me pls
28-11-2020 04:02 PM
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what kind of question they ask? Imo, everyone when transition from fresh grad to first job will face difficulties, no matter which uni
Every company is aware that fresh grads have to be trained. Thats why we have training for them. But if the questions you ask have already been addressed in training and doesnít value add, just keep it to yourself. People say that grades donít determine your work ability but i beg to differ. The local u ppl pick things up way quicker
28-11-2020 03:47 PM
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This is only in the big 4. Look at other MNCs, for banks that they in fresh grad, you need to have good grades + softskills + technicals. For other big companies they take in only a handful as well. In big 4, because of the high turn over they have to take in the bottom barrel graduates. Look the the skill gap, you have person A (Raffles straight As + Nus good honours) then you have B ( lousy jc B/Cs and from Sim). If you give the same work ofc A does it better what. Then A set the standard make everyone else look beh kan. In other MNCs if you beh kan got no one to compare it to.

Only sad part is less and less capable people joining audit. Now is all sim/suss/sit they ask some of dumbest questions you can imagine. Btw my experience is from yellow firm. Heard from my ex schoolmates pwc and kpmg are still able to attract local u grads
what kind of question they ask? Imo, everyone when transition from fresh grad to first job will face difficulties, no matter which uni
28-11-2020 02:05 PM
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I think what all the previous post are relevant whether big4 or other organisations
This is only in the big 4. Look at other MNCs, for banks that they in fresh grad, you need to have good grades + softskills + technicals. For other big companies they take in only a handful as well. In big 4, because of the high turn over they have to take in the bottom barrel graduates. Look the the skill gap, you have person A (Raffles straight As + Nus good honours) then you have B ( lousy jc B/Cs and from Sim). If you give the same work ofc A does it better what. Then A set the standard make everyone else look beh kan. In other MNCs if you beh kan got no one to compare it to.

Only sad part is less and less capable people joining audit. Now is all sim/suss/sit they ask some of dumbest questions you can imagine. Btw my experience is from yellow firm. Heard from my ex schoolmates pwc and kpmg are still able to attract local u grads
28-11-2020 10:17 AM
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WTF bro i have the same thoughts but kept it to myself. But not just private uni grads lah tbh. Got some ntu or nus ppl also beh kan one lah. But if you not good will get pass on for promotion. The only diff is really local u ppl seem to get job easily. You tell the AM he not getting to manager, they cfm leave in 3-6 months . The private u ppl lanlan suck thumb
I think what all the previous post are relevant whether big4 or other organisations
28-11-2020 12:59 AM
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As someone that graduated from one of the local uni (Nus, Ntu & Smu), i have to agree that the big 4s have no standard anymore. In the first 2 years of audit, everyone is able to do the mindless work. However, once you give the private degree associates real work, they make a mess of it and drag everyone else down.
My advice to local U undergrads, don't fall for the "prestige" of the big 4. Think about it, if people from SIM or non-accounting students can get in, is it even prestigious anymore? Also, the exit opps isn't magical once you work in the big 4. Literally 1000s of auditors are trying to leave, nothing will help you stand out. The only reason i managed to snag a good job in industry is the fact that i had a first class from a local uni. P.s. don't listen to seniors that tell you your grades don't matter after your first job, it does.
WTF bro i have the same thoughts but kept it to myself. But not just private uni grads lah tbh. Got some ntu or nus ppl also beh kan one lah. But if you not good will get pass on for promotion. The only diff is really local u ppl seem to get job easily. You tell the AM he not getting to manager, they cfm leave in 3-6 months . The private u ppl lanlan suck thumb
27-11-2020 11:35 PM
Unregistered As someone that graduated from one of the local uni (Nus, Ntu & Smu), i have to agree that the big 4s have no standard anymore. In the first 2 years of audit, everyone is able to do the mindless work. However, once you give the private degree associates real work, they make a mess of it and drag everyone else down.
My advice to local U undergrads, don't fall for the "prestige" of the big 4. Think about it, if people from SIM or non-accounting students can get in, is it even prestigious anymore? Also, the exit opps isn't magical once you work in the big 4. Literally 1000s of auditors are trying to leave, nothing will help you stand out. The only reason i managed to snag a good job in industry is the fact that i had a first class from a local uni. P.s. don't listen to seniors that tell you your grades don't matter after your first job, it does.
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