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19-12-2011 10:57 AM
Unregistered I read this and I symphatize with you. Are you a Singaporean? Reading your previous posts and lack of MT seems to suggest you are not local.

It maybe because of this that you are getting few offers and low starting pay.

I was an accountancy graduate as well. Local uni. Graduated in 2007. I count myself lucky as the Big 4 firms readily absorb all local grads. I find it conflicting that the Big 4 audit firms continually voice out that they are unable to hire enough fresh joiners but yet it seems they are shunning SIM accountancy grads.

How about the other 6 smaller audit firms like Grand Thornton etc ? Did you try those? Do they shun SIM grads as well?

My brother is studying in SIM. Accountancy. He told me that only the top few graduates eventually land a job in the Big 4. Is this true? I didn't believe it when he told me. Now reading your post and seeing your plight, I am concerned.

My advice for you if you wish to pursue the audit path is to try going for a ACCA accredition. It is generally more recognizable.

If however you wish to pursue accounting job in MNC / local firm, perhaps it is better to look for prospects instead of starting pay.

During my year, Big 4s were offering 2.4-2.7k start for grads. I didn't pursue the audit path in the end. Went to banking. Start pay was 4k+.

How about applying to a bank instead? Operations role is not too bad a career path also. Probably will pay you much better. I have a cousin who graduated from SIM and pursued a retail banking sales position. Think she was doing insurance sales for sometime. Pay was quite good.

Accounting grad don't need to do accounting. Be open to other industries might increase your job chances/prospects

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Originally Posted by hail View Post
That is really good advise,I send over 200 copiesof my resume before I got any reply and the replies were only rejection after over a month ( 1 month 2 weeks) of waiting. It was disheartening.
12-12-2011 11:59 AM
poorman Congrats!!

Always heartening to see a fellow fresh grad find employment. Work smart and hard!
10-12-2011 03:52 PM
hail Thanks fo the advice and support everyone..

Update : I manage to get a job that i am excited about that pays 3000+ (requires working on weekend/holidays and shift on a regular basis)

I know there are some in the position I was and it can get tiring , my prayers and well-wishes are with you. Keep trying and eventually you will get there.
08-06-2011 05:08 PM
coo.za
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Originally Posted by hail View Post
I am an SIM graduate. I have been applying for mid-tier accounting firm, mnc's and local companies . Some seem to prefer chinese speaking so they can liase with working associates / client

I just got an offer for 1.8K an admin job nothing to do with accountancy.. 1.5 years contract no bonus or anything...but everyone is saying i should not accept anything less than 2.2 because it will hinder my futher pay .. what are your thoughts
Hi, Hail
I was in similar boat to you before...I was unemployed for almost 2 yrs.
I am engineering NTU grad. Those 2 yrs have been really educating for me. It gave me a really big slap to my 'sleeping' self (i used to be a lazy student back in my uni days)...It forced me to work the hardest to prove my worth once I get a job. Now, I am inventor of 160 patents worldwide, and I achieved that in 5 yrs, i didn't even think i would become an inventor one day.

If you're afraid to negotiate the salary (which was what i faced last time), try to nego the contract length...say to only 6 months, then ask for salary review after that. Or maybe by the time, you already got a new offer, which are substantially higher than this one.

Use the 6 months to learn as much as you can, and take more responsibilities, if possible related to your field, accounting. Do your job exceptionally well, so your company cannot afford to lose you.

Keep positive.
08-06-2011 03:35 PM
Unregistered Has any UOL grad who just done with final year, found a job or received any offer/ interview yet?
08-06-2011 02:55 PM
lazyplane [QUOTE=Unregistered;10951] a more "marketable degree" from a non-local university and it is not easy to be granted even an interview..
[QUOTE]

Ok, i will try to help.

Do this :
1. Go and search all applicable jobs jobsdb, straitstime sat newspaper etc.
2. Read each job that you wanted. Did you highlight in your cover letter or cv the skills that they are looking for ? Or did you do a "standard" template CV and letter ?

If you did the template, do some customisation to the context of the job ad.


3. Get some friends/older mentors to review your CV and letter .
Is there an obvious flaw with your CV that you may not know ?

4. Speed of interviews and CV.
Organisation and HR dont move in the same speed as you. U send an CV today, and if it is a good position, it takes 2 -3 weeks earliest before they call you up for interview. Set your expectation accordingly

5. Work temp in companies but related field

6. Set a daily rountine instead of letting your mind go wild.
Plan out a daily regular routine when you are not working.
7am Exercise,
8am shower,
8.30 breakfast,
9 newspaper, job search
11am computer,
1pm Lunch,
2 pm Library, clean toilet /do housework, watch tv,etc
5pm - Cook dinner
8 pm - rest and relax / friends
10pm- count down sleep
08-06-2011 04:43 AM
Unregistered YES IT IS so hard to get a job even when i have a more MARKETABLE DEGREE
05-04-2011 10:04 AM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by k3vin View Post
then you are making it a political argument, I am a fresh grad and i am not cheapening myself and I have received good offers(by my standards, banking MA, govt, MNC global graduate associate/trainee prog/SIA, pay of from mid to upper end of 3k) even though I am only a local grad with an arts major.

I agree with lazyplane, blaming the gov, blaming foreign talent, blaming your peers for doing better is no point.

Work on yourself and prove yourself, and there will be a way.

I do freaking english lit in FASS and I can receive good offers, why not anyone else with a more marketable major? How you market yourself and buffer your CV makes a difference, not sitting in front of a keyboard and moan.

Maybe you can share, how you market yourself.. I have a more "marketable degree" from a non-local university and it is not easy to be granted even an interview..

I have been trying really hard and marketing myself and doing all the things that i should be ..
01-04-2011 04:18 PM
lazyplane By your last post, you are make a political statement.

I never agree said to agree with the government, neither did i said i disagree with them. I definitely did not say they are the best and can only most faultless policies in the world.

R u sure i am young ? and you are not the only one with 2 roof . And you may be surprised whom i vote for.

But since you want to make a political statement, let me start a new thread and we can shout it down.

See new thread soon.



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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Of course we shouldn't blame the government. They are paid the highest salaries in the world and so they can only deliver the best and most faultless policies in the world. Faultless. It's the pedigree of the people that's bad. Blame in on poor genes if you want to blame anything.

Young friend, wait till you start looking for the first roof over your head before commenting.

I already have 2 roofs so the government is doing me a great favour.
01-04-2011 03:13 PM
Unregistered If not cheaper, then make yourself better and / or faster. That's still what the above posters are saying.

Of course we shouldn't blame the government. They are paid the highest salaries in the world and so they can only deliver the best and most faultless policies in the world. Faultless. It's the pedigree of the people that's bad. Blame in on poor genes if you want to blame anything.

Young friend, wait till you start looking for the first roof over your head before commenting.

I already have 2 roofs so the government is doing me a great favour.
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