36 yo, 170k cash+stocks. 5 room HDB w outstanding $120k loan. Single and dont have a car. $85k per annum job. Rental income $1400 per month. Feeling v poor now after reading thru this thread.. ;(
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You're doing fine. Just need a wife. |
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Dont really dare to start a family too w my income. Unless get a rich wife. ;) |
how much savings, debt/liabilities u all have and what age?
how much savings, debt/liabilities u all have and what age? i am 27 male, 1.4k per per month gross, so take home about 1k... few hundreds in bank account total.. what about u all?
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44 yrs old, wife 44 years old. Both working. no kinds.
we are DINKS. mid level management. combined earning about $180k p.a. Combined Cash $510k Combined stocks $300k Combined CPF $545k HDB fully paid. Jap car, 9 yrs old, fully paid. Have to make a decision soon on the car. Passive dividend income of about $1.5k per month. |
Since you don't have kids, you can actually retire in JB now.
Rent out your flat for $2.5k pm, so your passive income in total is $4k pm. Convert to RM, you get RM12k pm. More than enough to retire in luxury in JB. It doesn't cost that much to retire in luxury in JB. Rent a 3 bedroom luxury condo unit in JB RM2k pm Car expenses RM500 pm Utilities, food, groceries, eating at restaurants RM2k pm Entertainment and travel RM1k pm Misc RM500 pm Total expenses RM6k pm Total savings RM6k pm Quote:
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Sounds good on paper. But it is not easy if you are non-malay.
The safety factor in Singapore is priceless. Quote:
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47 & 45, combined income $160k pa. Two school going children.
Condominium, worth $1.1 mil, mortgage left $200k. Car, paid up. Cash $70k CPF and stocks $600k I think we are doing ok. Middle class family leading a middle class lifestyle. |
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Education: A levels Status: Single (Cant find gf :( Income PA: $120k Savings: 60k CPF:20k Just cleared my loan of 60k |
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Income PA: average 11K pm in car sales line Savings: 103K Age: 24 Will be buying condo in one to two years time. |
Save up more first. In 2 years time, your savings can at most increase by $242k for a total of $345k, that is if you save every cents of your income.
You have time on your side, no need to rush. Buying with lower loan will also give more margin of safety in case of job /income uncertainty I bought my first condo at 40, and paid for it in full. Savings thereafter were used to build up retirement fund and investment. Quote:
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Stocks crash reduced my networth growth
The slow but steady decline in the STI over the last few months have eaten away our networth by $160k. This was more than our passive income of $130k for the whole of 2015. Haiz.
It is moments like these that you wonder if it is wiser / better to keep your money in the banks (FDs) or to invest in stocks. You keep your $$ in the bank, you worry that inflation will erode the value. You invest in shares and property, you worry about economy tanking which will bring down stocks and property prices. So what's a person to do? Looking at the various assets we own - 2 x condos, stocks, bonds, endowments, CPF funds, and ourselves, it is clear to us that we ourselves are our best assets. None of the other assets can generate anything near what we earn in salaries. So thankfully, the savings from our salaries were able to increase our networth for 2015 despite the loss of $160k in our stocks holding. |
Luckily I don't have much in the stock market. I leave most in my CPF. I use my extra cash to pay off my condo loan. Now I am debt free. Are you debt free or still in debt?
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I didn't use CPF funds to buy shares, but nevertheless I have substantial cash invested in the stock market. I did use some of my CPF money to pay for our second condo. Today's STI decline wiped out another $28k! Ouch! Don't know how much blood shed there will be, but at times like these, I am really thankful I am still working.
Not sure if the declining market will lead to collapse in the economy. If so, it will lead to vicious cycle continuing stock market decline and shrinking economy and loss of jobs. Scary to think about it. Quote:
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The markets are crashing. Are you scared of losing your job? I hope you're not in the engineering or finance sectors. Which company are you working in?
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Let's see how far down the stock markets will go. It's looking like 2008/09 all over again with Dow Jones index dropping by 200+ points everyday!
I think at this rate, many people's savings invested in the stocks will be wiped out. Weak companies may fold and jobs will be lost. And in retirement depending on the stocks may be hit badly too. On the other hand if you are in a stable job, this is a good time to start looking and picking up oversold "gems". Delay buying that new car for now and channel the money into good but oversold and under valued stocks. When the market recovers like in 09/10, your investments will grow multi fold. Quote:
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Education: Nitec
Income: 154k for 2015, in property line Savings: 110k Age: 23 |
Why are you promoting this ??
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For those retrenched ex-PMETs out there, such as ex-engineers and ex-bankers, do not be sad. You have worked so hard all your lives, now is the time to celebrate life. Open your mind. Your life on this earth is limited. Time to retire. Enjoy your retirement!
Good retirement plan in KL or Penang (retire in luxury) for a retired couple at 55 years old (assuming no dependents) Passive income at 55 Rent out fully paid HDB flat S$2.5k pm Stocks dividends S$1k pm Total S$3.5k pm or RM10.5k pm KL or Penang cost of living Rent a 3 bedroom condominium RM2k pm Car expenses RM500 pm (assume buy car in cash RM50k) Food, groceries, restaurants and utilities RM2k pm Medical and entertainment RM1k pm Misc RM500 pm Total spending RM6k pm Savings RM4.5k pm Passive income at 65 Rent out fully paid HDB flat S$2.5k pm Stocks dividends S$1k pm CPF Life (Enhanced Retirement Scheme), couple gets S$3.5k pm Total income S$7k pm or RM21k pm Total spending RM8k pm Savings RM13k pm This retirement plan allows you to live in a nice condo and drive a nice car. You can go holidays all over the world every year if you want to since you will have lots of savings. Your key retirement assets are: 1. HDB flat 2. CPF Life 3. Dividend blue chip stocks. |
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Just started working again after further post-graduate education.
Age: 28 (expat) Income: SGD300,000 (finance) Savings: SGD400,000 Inheritance: over SGD10MM (half of parents' net worth) Nobody at my office here in Singapore knows that I come from a fairly affluent family at home. Would never discuss/wear anything that would suggest it. Educational background is top-tier, but so is that of many of my colleagues, including the Singaporeans. Should I live it up and leave my financial future to my parents, or should I continue saving everything and being discreet? |
You are rich. Make a difference to the world. There are billions of homeless, hungry, poor people and children. What's your purpose on this earth? Think.
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Savings and retirement funds
To continue the original topic, the following is my financial profile after starting on the saving/investment path 18 years ago.
Insurance returns (progressively with final one in 2027) 680,000 Apartment (paid up, outstanding mortgage;MC charges; taxes paid by rental) 300,000 Service apartment in NZ (paid up, ditto) 128,000 Philippines Condormitel (small-sized condo-type housing for undergraduates)(paid-up) 20,500 Stocks 140,000 Other alternative investments 588,500 CPF balance(excluding housing loans already subsumed under apartment) 385,000 (Believe in splurging on self with well-deserved regular facial/spa/aesthetic laser & facial firming,and occasional branded bags and watches purchase. Endeavoured to contribute to charity to targeted group(s) too) I just wanted to make hay while the sun shines to enjoy myself in retirement, not forgetting to live the well deserved good life as well;) |
How old are you? What's your personal net worth? Do you have kids?
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Mark Zuckerberg. (my apologies)
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I don't compromise on quality of life, so I retire in a luxury condo in a good district and drives a beautiful car. As I'm debt free (your property and car are your two most expensive assets), my expenses are not that high. I don't go partying all night, I don't gamble nor smoke. I lead a full and healthy life. Are you a guy or lady? |
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Age 24
Still studying in NUS, no income Savings: 20k cash, 20k in corporate bonds, 5k in a STI stock Managed to save these from my army salary, angpao since young, part time jobs etc and investing in the stock market. Hoping to get married with my Girlfriend early maybe 2 years after graduation. Not sure if my pace of savings is enough for marriage |
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Someone asked what is my net worth. I did a quick calculation based on sale of the properties, stocks, returns to investment in the short term(til 2018),etc. It is in the range of $2.5mil +/-(I am thankful to my faith/blessedness and the people I have been blessed with, in helping me). With my financial status now, I am able to have financial security for the future, pursue a lifestyle and activities I love doing, and more satisfying too, to bring joys in others' life(family, friends and otherwise). I sincerely hope more people will benefit from a less conservative investment approach, do their due diligence before committing in investments ...it can only get better. I know because I once started from "zero". Julie |
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