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screw off tech and business.

liberal arts is the best ROI

NUS Bachelor of Science with Honours (Yale-NUS) – $7,139 ($9,967)
NTU Medicine – $5,661 ($6,092)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – $5,571 ($5,585)
SMU Law (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $5,324 ($6,000)
NUS Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery – $5,218 ($5,657)
SMU Information Systems (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $5,212 ($5,550)
NUS Bachelor of Laws – $5,160 ($5,800)
SMU Law (4-year) – $5,064 ($5,800)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – $4,925 ($5,500)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Business Analytics) – $4,881 ($5,200)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – $4,732 ($4,900)
SMU Business Management (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $4,614 ($5,120)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – $4,593 ($5,000)
NTU Business and Computing – $4,562 ($5,000)
SMU Information Systems (4-year) – $4,549 ($5,000)
SMU Economics (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $4,520 ($4,600)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial and Systems Engineering) – $4,451 ($4,600)
SMU Accountancy (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $4,431 ($5,000)
NTU Accountancy and Business – $4,359 ($4,600)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – $4,330 ($4,685)
NTU Computer Science – $4,309 ($4,900)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science)* – $4,285 ($5,200)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture)6 – $4,199 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Arts with Honours (Yale-NUS) – $4,197 ($4,567)
SMU Business Management (4-year) – $4,181 ($4,600)
SMU Economics (4-year) – $4,159 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – $4,101 ($4,600)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – $4,093 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science and Engineering) – $4,086 ($4,600)
NTU Computer Engineering – $4,074 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – $4,068 ($4,500)
NTU Information Engineering and Media – $4,006 ($4,350)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – $4,005 ($3,800)
NTU Mathematics & Economics – $3,996 ($4,167)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – $3,959 ($4,300)
NTU Aerospace Engineering – $3,939 ($4,600)
NTU Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering – $3,921 ($4,300)
NTU Electrical and Electronic Engineering – $3,884 ($4,000)
NTU Public Policy And Global Affairs – $3,868 ($4,345)
NTU Physics & Applied Physics – $3,849 ($4,200)
NTU Mathematical Sciences – $3,848 ($4,070)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – $3,847 ($4,300)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) – $3,840 ($4,000)
NTU Materials Engineering – $3,817 ($4,175)
SMU Accountancy (4-year) – $3,802 ($4,000)
NTU Business – $3,797 ($4,000)
NTU Science (with Education) – $3,758 ($3,840)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – $3,746 ($4,025)
SMU Social Sciences (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $3,742 ($4,070)
NTU Mechanical Engineering – $3,728 ($4,005)
SUSS Bachelor of Science in Finance – $3,722 ($3,750)
NTU Arts (with Education) – $3,710 ($3,806)
NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences – $3,674 ($3,850)
NTU Maritime Studies – $3,669 ($3,700)
SMU Social Sciences (4-year) – $3,629 ($4,000)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) (Hons) – $3,612 ($3,750)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – $3,605 ($3,800)
NTU Environmental Engineering – $3,596 ($3,800)
NTU Civil Engineering – $3,582 ($3,900)
NUS Bachelor of Music – $3,575 ($3,900)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – $3,569 ($3,900)
NTU Bioengineering – $3,548 ($3,700)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – $3,537 ($3,800)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Biomedical Engineering) – $3,535 ($3,800)
NTU Psychology – $3,506 ($3,800)
NTU History – $3,498 ($3,800)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – $3,494 ($3,650)
NUS Bachelor of Arts – $3,456 ($3,700)
NTU Economics – $3,453 ($3,600)
NTU Biological Sciences – $3,450 ($3,600)
NTU Sociology – $3,441 ($3,600)
NTU Sports Science and Management – $3,438 ($3,660)
NTU Environmental Earth Systems Sciences – $3,416 ($3,500)
NTU Philosophy* – $3,369 ($3,584)
NTU Linguistics And Multilingual Studies – $3,365 ($3,740)
NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – $3,338 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Environmental Studies – $3,332 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Science – $3,320 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – $3,314 ($3,450)
NTU Communication Studies – $3,264 ($3,500)
NTU Chinese – $3,260 ($3,500)
NTU Accountancy – $3,254 ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Industrial Design) – $3,245 ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Project and Facilities Management) – $3,243 ($3,480)
SUSS Bachelor of Science in Marketing – $3,169 ($3,400)
NTU Art, Design & Media – $3,068 ($3,500)
NTU English – $2,997 ($3,500)
NTU Biomedical Sciences & Chinese Medicine – $2,979 ($3,200)
SUSS Bachelor of Human Resource Management – $2,975 ($3,300)
SUSS Bachelor of Accountancy – $2,900 ($3,000)

s://.salary.sg/2020/graduate-employment-survey-2019-published-2020/
Im very impressed with the nus yale starting pay $9.9k.
9.9k is 75th percentile. Meaning you have 25% of grads earning more than 9.9k per month
I wondered if the yale nus peeps return to states and therefore this is their pay in the states.


If singapore salary, yale nus is really good. Many of us in this forum dont hit 10k

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liberal arts is the best ROI

NUS Bachelor of Science with Honours (Yale-NUS) – $7,139 ($9,967)
NTU Medicine – $5,661 ($6,092)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – $5,571 ($5,585)
SMU Law (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $5,324 ($6,000)
NUS Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery – $5,218 ($5,657)
SMU Information Systems (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $5,212 ($5,550)
NUS Bachelor of Laws – $5,160 ($5,800)
SMU Law (4-year) – $5,064 ($5,800)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – $4,925 ($5,500)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Business Analytics) – $4,881 ($5,200)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – $4,732 ($4,900)
SMU Business Management (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $4,614 ($5,120)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – $4,593 ($5,000)
NTU Business and Computing – $4,562 ($5,000)
SMU Information Systems (4-year) – $4,549 ($5,000)
SMU Economics (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $4,520 ($4,600)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial and Systems Engineering) – $4,451 ($4,600)
SMU Accountancy (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $4,431 ($5,000)
NTU Accountancy and Business – $4,359 ($4,600)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – $4,330 ($4,685)
NTU Computer Science – $4,309 ($4,900)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science)* – $4,285 ($5,200)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture)6 – $4,199 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Arts with Honours (Yale-NUS) – $4,197 ($4,567)
SMU Business Management (4-year) – $4,181 ($4,600)
SMU Economics (4-year) – $4,159 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – $4,101 ($4,600)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – $4,093 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science and Engineering) – $4,086 ($4,600)
NTU Computer Engineering – $4,074 ($4,500)
NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – $4,068 ($4,500)
NTU Information Engineering and Media – $4,006 ($4,350)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – $4,005 ($3,800)
NTU Mathematics & Economics – $3,996 ($4,167)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – $3,959 ($4,300)
NTU Aerospace Engineering – $3,939 ($4,600)
NTU Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering – $3,921 ($4,300)
NTU Electrical and Electronic Engineering – $3,884 ($4,000)
NTU Public Policy And Global Affairs – $3,868 ($4,345)
NTU Physics & Applied Physics – $3,849 ($4,200)
NTU Mathematical Sciences – $3,848 ($4,070)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – $3,847 ($4,300)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) – $3,840 ($4,000)
NTU Materials Engineering – $3,817 ($4,175)
SMU Accountancy (4-year) – $3,802 ($4,000)
NTU Business – $3,797 ($4,000)
NTU Science (with Education) – $3,758 ($3,840)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – $3,746 ($4,025)
SMU Social Sciences (4-year) Cum Laude and above – $3,742 ($4,070)
NTU Mechanical Engineering – $3,728 ($4,005)
SUSS Bachelor of Science in Finance – $3,722 ($3,750)
NTU Arts (with Education) – $3,710 ($3,806)
NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences – $3,674 ($3,850)
NTU Maritime Studies – $3,669 ($3,700)
SMU Social Sciences (4-year) – $3,629 ($4,000)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) (Hons) – $3,612 ($3,750)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – $3,605 ($3,800)
NTU Environmental Engineering – $3,596 ($3,800)
NTU Civil Engineering – $3,582 ($3,900)
NUS Bachelor of Music – $3,575 ($3,900)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – $3,569 ($3,900)
NTU Bioengineering – $3,548 ($3,700)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – $3,537 ($3,800)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Biomedical Engineering) – $3,535 ($3,800)
NTU Psychology – $3,506 ($3,800)
NTU History – $3,498 ($3,800)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – $3,494 ($3,650)
NUS Bachelor of Arts – $3,456 ($3,700)
NTU Economics – $3,453 ($3,600)
NTU Biological Sciences – $3,450 ($3,600)
NTU Sociology – $3,441 ($3,600)
NTU Sports Science and Management – $3,438 ($3,660)
NTU Environmental Earth Systems Sciences – $3,416 ($3,500)
NTU Philosophy* – $3,369 ($3,584)
NTU Linguistics And Multilingual Studies – $3,365 ($3,740)
NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – $3,338 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Environmental Studies – $3,332 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Science – $3,320 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – $3,314 ($3,450)
NTU Communication Studies – $3,264 ($3,500)
NTU Chinese – $3,260 ($3,500)
NTU Accountancy – $3,254 ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Industrial Design) – $3,245 ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Project and Facilities Management) – $3,243 ($3,480)
SUSS Bachelor of Science in Marketing – $3,169 ($3,400)
NTU Art, Design & Media – $3,068 ($3,500)
NTU English – $2,997 ($3,500)
NTU Biomedical Sciences & Chinese Medicine – $2,979 ($3,200)
SUSS Bachelor of Human Resource Management – $2,975 ($3,300)
SUSS Bachelor of Accountancy – $2,900 ($3,000)

s://.salary.sg/2020/graduate-employment-survey-2019-published-2020/

Of these, law and med are the least "risky" - meaning you're more or less assured of a job paying more than median income if you're at least above average.

As a lawyer, you'll be assured of a fairly decent income if you're in the top quartile of your batch. The top quartile generally end up in the big4, which pay 6k starting on average with an increment of 1k pm/y. After 6 to 8 years of slogging you can expect to make 200 - 250k or so per year as a junior partner.

Two years after qualification, a handful of big4 associates manage to get NQ spots in international firms. These pay anywhere from 9-11k (Silver circle and mid-tier intls) to 13-15k (Magic circle) and even up to 20k at the top US firms.

Pay per hour varies widely, with big4 lawyers generally working longer hours (10pm - midnight is the norm at some places) than their intl firm (save for US firms) peers.

Pay doesnt touch the top IB and S&T folks but OTOH noone really gets fired from a law firm once you're in. A pretty safe choice if you're looking for decent ROI at low risk.

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Really? The chinatown firms where i work, their hair are all silver. Hence silver circles definitely dont pay 11-15k.

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Govt or statboard don't pay near tier 2 (if tier 2 is 5-7k). They pay more of 3.8-5k.
I just left a gov place, they paid ~5.2 for 2nd upper, FCH should be 5.4 ish? Gov pays really high bonus. Not to mention a 20k sign-on bonus (3yrs). On the other hand, startups don't really. I suppose this is the issue with talking about salary in the monthly sense.
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For fresh grads who are keen to join the graduate programs offered by banks, is it better to accept a front office position in the local banks or middle office/ops position in foreign banks?
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NUS Bachelor of Science with Honours (Yale-NUS) – $7,139 ($9,967)

Most likely a computer science degree? their students can opt to take computer science major as well.
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For fresh grads who are keen to join the graduate programs offered by banks, is it better to accept a front office position in the local banks or middle office/ops position in foreign banks?
foreign banks duh. front office local bank for what, the deal flow is so dry. you'd be better off in a foreign bank which has more opportunities to hop over to front office.


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front office local bank. you can't hop from mid/back office to front that easily


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foreign banks duh. front office local bank for what, the deal flow is so dry. you'd be better off in a foreign bank which has more opportunities to hop over to front office.
Wow.. so easy to “hop” over to front office from back office eh?
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Wow.. so easy to “hop” over to front office from back office eh?
Still easier than hopping from UOB to UBS wealth management
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