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Old 16-02-2020, 09:02 PM
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I am planning to apply for a local U next year. Due to personal reasons, I will be paying for my own education either through a study loan or hopefully picking up a scholarship.

I have excellent results and can get a place in almost any degree course. Barring subject interest as I have no particular course preference, what degree will offer me the best ROI upon graduation and in the long-term. Money is a priority to me and I want to provide my family with a good life in the future.

From my knowledge, I've heard high finance (IB, trading) pays the most but the hours are one of the worst. The law market isn't doing very well and compsci grads are being replaced with foreign grads. Accountancy and engineering are pretty stable but the starting pay is relatively low. My parents have also advised me against going into arts although I wouldn't mind doing it provided it pays well.

Assuming I wish to get a job in investment banking, will a finance degree (biz) from a local U suffice? I have also heard stories of many finance grads going into property/insurance due to oversupply. The job market seems pretty depressing and I really hope to secure a good job in the future.
I've been in sales and trading for more than a year, more specifically fx sales. Hours are fantastic, money is fantastic. I only have a private degree, but hustled my ass off supporting the desk before joining them. Totally worth it, no regrets joining. On the trading side, you have more stress meeting PnL targets. Sales side you have comms target but generally the current crop of clients we have makes it easy to meet targets.

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this info whole thread is very outdated. now definetly highest ROI degree is definetly CS (NOT IS)

Spend 4 years in local U with MOE grant for tuition each sem pay only 4k+ for CS degree

Come out 2nd upper and if your coding skills are GOOD you can minimally hit 5k starting pay with tech companies like Grab, Shopee etc etc

Better if youre first class honors - companies like Indeed, GIC, Google, FB pay at least 6k to 7k as fresh grad

Even those go that into into tier 1 consulting (Mckinsey, Bain, Boston) which almost always requires you to have FCH only pay 5.5k for their entry level associates.

Source: I am a tech recrutier in one of the unicorn companies and have access to salary offers and competitors offer range as well

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this info whole thread is very outdated. now definetly highest ROI degree is definetly CS (NOT IS)

Spend 4 years in local U with MOE grant for tuition each sem pay only 4k+ for CS degree

Come out 2nd upper and if your coding skills are GOOD you can minimally hit 5k starting pay with tech companies like Grab, Shopee etc etc

Better if youre first class honors - companies like Indeed, GIC, Google, FB pay at least 6k to 7k as fresh grad

Even those go that into into tier 1 consulting (Mckinsey, Bain, Boston) which almost always requires you to have FCH only pay 5.5k for their entry level associates.

Source: I am a tech recrutier in one of the unicorn companies and have access to salary offers and competitors offer range as well
Sales and trading is 10k per month for freshies FYI...

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These days probably data science or computing degrees
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Sales and trading is 10k per month for freshies FYI...
You're saying like as if every person who gets into B&F Degree makes that amount. The median for a run of the B&F mill chap is probably only 4k+ at best going into a MA programme in one of the local banks

Sure I only know a handful of traders and those require FCH and LKY gold award and the top of the education pyramid - probably that upside can be 9 10k

Do you think statistically speaking OP is of that caliber which would be the top 0.5% as above?

We should use run of the mill qualifications to compare. 2nd upper (know to be average grade in uni) CS student already command 5k+, what about B&F grads?
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You're saying like as if every person who gets into B&F Degree makes that amount. The median for a run of the B&F mill chap is probably only 4k+ at best going into a MA programme in one of the local banks

Sure I only know a handful of traders and those require FCH and LKY gold award and the top of the education pyramid - probably that upside can be 9 10k

Do you think statistically speaking OP is of that caliber which would be the top 0.5% as above?

We should use run of the mill qualifications to compare. 2nd upper (know to be average grade in uni) CS student already command 5k+, what about B&F grads?
I'm not fch, no lky awards whatsoever. Somehow I got in. Many ppl say I'm lucky..
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You're saying like as if every person who gets into B&F Degree makes that amount. The median for a run of the B&F mill chap is probably only 4k+ at best going into a MA programme in one of the local banks

Sure I only know a handful of traders and those require FCH and LKY gold award and the top of the education pyramid - probably that upside can be 9 10k

Do you think statistically speaking OP is of that caliber which would be the top 0.5% as above?

We should use run of the mill qualifications to compare. 2nd upper (know to be average grade in uni) CS student already command 5k+, what about B&F grads?
Yes statistically people who use salary forum belong to the top 1% of the population in EQ and IQ. So my calculations indicate he is likely to be top 0.5%.

Im afraid your model of run of mill grad does not work here


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Best ROI is the ceca's Uptron cert, complete in 3 months then come to Singapore and make 60k/month. Pappies love cecas and their Uptron certs so that's the best ROI. Change my mind!
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i only know hr is the least roi.. especially in private sector as hr is a job that dont require degree so if u find job in private sector, most likely the salary range is o level/diploma level range as they advertised dont require degree.

Fresh grad with hr degree starting pay in private sector around 2.2k to 2.3k only.

Unless you go govt sector as they are more structured.
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Why are software engineers paid so much? My friends who are SWE in good companies gets paid 6-8k as fresh grads. I have been in the workforce for a few years already and still dont even get to touch 6k...
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