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Old 17-12-2013, 02:12 PM
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does stats board/ministry usually sponsor their employee for further study?

especially for those in the professional scheme... eg. engineers, statistician, economists, etc.

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Huh? Are u sure that ministry give you 4.4k??? usually we in the ministry will need to work for 5 years to get that amount.
Yes i agree, it cant be that he is earning 4.4k with just 3 years experience coz he is not a scholar.

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Yes i agree, it cant be that he is earning 4.4k with just 3 years experience coz he is not a scholar.
hmm.. i tot 5k is a achievable target by age of 30 (male, non-scholar, good hons).... am i misguided by the earlier posts in this thread?

or was it bcos u guys belong to the earlier batch before the salary adjustment?

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hmm.. i tot 5k is a achievable target by age of 30 (male, non-scholar, good hons).... am i misguided by the earlier posts in this thread?

or was it bcos u guys belong to the earlier batch before the salary adjustment?
5k is achievable if he has been working for 5 years in the ministry. But this character was offered 4.4k by a ministry with just 3 years of experience!!!
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Old 17-12-2013, 04:55 PM
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currently working in a ministry with close to 7k(basic low 6k+allowances) doing IT work for 6.5 years
But not really satisfied with job scope and career progression
been getting C every year since the last promotion 2 years ago

applied to another stat board to do IT work which matches the job scope i keen on but their HR asked if i willing to accept pay cut to below 6k.

Should I stay or go?
I think its extremely hard to get promoted in current ministry as too many "tigers and dragons" But getting a pay cut of almost 1k, especially if its just transition from ministry to stat board sounds like a real bad deal; its like a demotion in 1 grade

Also, does CEP reset if i move over from ministry to stat board(stat board's belongs to a different ministry)

In short i keen to improve my job satisfaction and CEP, but the pay cut is a huge deterring factor. At worst i just willing to forgo my allowance and maintain my current basic.
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currently working in a ministry with close to 7k(basic low 6k+allowances) doing IT work for 6.5 years
But not really satisfied with job scope and career progression
been getting C every year since the last promotion 2 years ago

applied to another stat board to do IT work which matches the job scope i keen on but their HR asked if i willing to accept pay cut to below 6k.

Should I stay or go?
I think its extremely hard to get promoted in current ministry as too many "tigers and dragons" But getting a pay cut of almost 1k, especially if its just transition from ministry to stat board sounds like a real bad deal; its like a demotion in 1 grade

Also, does CEP reset if i move over from ministry to stat board(stat board's belongs to a different ministry)

In short i keen to improve my job satisfaction and CEP, but the pay cut is a huge deterring factor. At worst i just willing to forgo my allowance and maintain my current basic.
My advice would be to not take up that offer by stat board. Pay cut of almost 1k is abit too much in my view. Rather than resigning from ministry to join that stat board, why not ask for a secondment instead? If that fails, try internal rotation within ministry to do other job scope?

I'm not sure if you can keep your CEP if you're resigning from ministry to join a stat board, especially since stat board have their own scheme. So why risk it?
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currently working in a ministry with close to 7k(basic low 6k+allowances) doing IT work for 6.5 years
But not really satisfied with job scope and career progression
been getting C every year since the last promotion 2 years ago

applied to another stat board to do IT work which matches the job scope i keen on but their HR asked if i willing to accept pay cut to below 6k.

Should I stay or go?
I think its extremely hard to get promoted in current ministry as too many "tigers and dragons" But getting a pay cut of almost 1k, especially if its just transition from ministry to stat board sounds like a real bad deal; its like a demotion in 1 grade

Also, does CEP reset if i move over from ministry to stat board(stat board's belongs to a different ministry)

In short i keen to improve my job satisfaction and CEP, but the pay cut is a huge deterring factor. At worst i just willing to forgo my allowance and maintain my current basic.
Having $1K allowance is amazing.....

Can share what kind of allowance is that? I can only think of overseas full-sub if you're travelling frequently. I know of one ministry where their IT officers travel very often but you would be already a stat board employee seconded to ministry??
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Having $1K allowance is amazing.....

Can share what kind of allowance is that? I can only think of overseas full-sub if you're travelling frequently. I know of one ministry where their IT officers travel very often but you would be already a stat board employee seconded to ministry??
If my guessing on your allowance is correct, then some of us may be able to advise better. Can understand why you get only C when your boss can hardly see you and your works etc...
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Erm a few hundred only la, not 1k. Before allowance is low 6k, after allowance is high 6k. Allowance for doing additional technical research projects besides core work
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Erm a few hundred only la, not 1k. Before allowance is low 6k, after allowance is high 6k. Allowance for doing additional technical research projects besides core work
Even with $500-800 allowance is still amazing, esp when technical research projects are considered part of "core works" for many IT officers?

The next best allowance besides overseas would be foreign languages at $150-$500 monthly. The rarer it is, the higher. But you need to acquire and maintain A level equivalent in proficiency for that language.

If it's true, also can understand better now. Although you may be putting in more hours due to the projects, you're already compensated with such allowances. Compared to another officer without such allowances, his boss can justify better for his higher CEP and performance.
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