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[cslee]

Originally Posted by rubberbus

No, I don't expect any specific answer, I'm just asking to find out whats their point of view. The problem is I don't even know what to ask. I believe there are many ppl like me, just following the Singapore stereotype education path: Get a degree first then talk. At the same time, they don't know what they want to be.

Ok, I understand now. Most ppl at your age won't know what they really want. It's perfectly normal. Make the best use of your internships and grow your network. Learn from one another experience and decide which path that you really enjoy and what you really want in life.

[uturn]

Originally Posted by cslee

If I know of any, I would report them to CPIB

maybe i should rephrase my q.. just wondering if it is not an uncommon thing. i mean all one have to do is to declare and seek permission right?

i maybe wrong.

Originally Posted by cslee

If you've yet to graduate, join their internship programme. Best to find out more directly from insiders.

Energy Market Authority : Internships

Internships at the civil service hardly offer the real deal. Typically they assigned you a research project and all the interns ended up doing is hide in their office to do research online. You don't really get to know what they do on a daily basis...

[chocomint]

2nd upper female, 1 yr working exp
astar snr officer vs dxo hr policy exec.. which would you choose assuming you're open to both? need advice on several criteria:
1. workplace benefits
2. career progression
3. working environment

thanks!

Originally Posted by uturn

maybe i should rephrase my q.. just wondering if it is not an uncommon thing. i mean all one have to do is to declare and seek permission right?

i maybe wrong.

Technically yes. However the main issue is whether there will be any conflict of interest.

[cslee]

Originally Posted by chocomint

2nd upper female, 1 yr working exp
astar snr officer vs dxo hr policy exec.. which would you choose assuming you're open to both? need advice on several criteria:
1. workplace benefits
2. career progression
3. working environment

thanks!

I believe your question would be better answered on another thread called "All things about DXO" or something like that. Defence sector has their own systems. Having said that, seem that the defence ppl have been very quiet recently. I suspect they might have received an internal circulations that restrict them from speaking freely online.

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Internships at the civil service hardly offer the real deal. Typically they assigned you a research project and all the interns ended up doing is hide in their office to do research online. You don't really get to know what they do on a daily basis...

Yes, if interns do their works, who need full time officers?
You'll still get a chance to network with them around and find out more e.g. pantry small talk, lunch out etc

[cslee]

Originally Posted by uturn

maybe i should rephrase my q.. just wondering if it is not an uncommon thing. i mean all one have to do is to declare and seek permission right?

i maybe wrong.

Encountered a few before. Mostly into part-time lecturing/tuition (general low civil service pay then). But with good increments & salary revisions in recent years, probably even fewer now (if any). And harder also e.g. faster and cheaper FTs

Originally Posted by chocomint

2nd upper female, 1 yr working exp
astar snr officer vs dxo hr policy exec.. which would you choose assuming you're open to both? need advice on several criteria:
1. workplace benefits
2. career progression
3. working environment

thanks!

Workplace benefits I can't comment because I haven't been to either's offices.

Career progression I suppose would follow the normal uni grad civil servant trajectory lor. Asst Dir, Dy Dir by the time you retire if you're lucky.

I did my ns at Mindef Building and as a now as a civilian guy going back there now to work I will totally hate it because of the oppressive memories I have of that place. Nonetheless I wasn't involved in the daily project research gritty work that the DXOs do so I can't say much. But environment wise.. Mindef is pretty out of the way if you stay in the east and its nowhere near any MRT station. Majorly hard to come to work everyday taking the bus all the time. And the building is damn old fyi.

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Workplace benefits I can't comment because I haven't been to either's offices.

Career progression I suppose would follow the normal uni grad civil servant trajectory lor. Asst Dir, Dy Dir by the time you retire if you're lucky.

I did my ns at Mindef Building and as a now as a civilian guy going back there now to work I will totally hate it because of the oppressive memories I have of that place. Nonetheless I wasn't involved in the daily project research gritty work that the DXOs do so I can't say much. But environment wise.. Mindef is pretty out of the way if you stay in the east and its nowhere near any MRT station. Majorly hard to come to work everyday taking the bus all the time. And the building is damn old fyi.

Wow... you said until like that then no one dares to join liao. My interaction with the DXOs was during my reservist time in a major airbase located in NE. From my observation, rather than "oppression", I would say they are more rank/senority conscious whereby the lower rank old birdies and higher rank officers feel entitled to "offload" the manual jobs (aka siak kang) to the newbies. Down PES NSFs being on the lowest chain would of course bore the brunt

Now on the positive - hardly any OTs I see. All rush to bus stops or drive out punctually at 530pm if not earlier. Only OT time is during major events like VIP visits or exercise where you would be compensated with off-in-lieu. If posted to camps/bases, free food and free car park as well. These are considered uncommon "privileges" in rest of civil service.