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Old 06-03-2013, 07:35 AM
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Do all civil servants make 10-11k eventually? Even non-HOD teachers?

That's about 150k a year including bonuses. High!

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Let us not use the term 'all' because it is not mathematically correct. But many (degree holders) do attain this range if they work long enough. For the case of non-HOD teachers, the senior teachers actually have an alternative path called specialist track (or something similar)

There will be endless debates about the magnitude of the salary. If you say it is high, people will flood this forum with doctors' pay and lawyers' salary and what have you. Conversely, if you say it is low, there will be other benchmarks (perhaps engineers? haha. Again, that is contentious)

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Do all civil servants make 10-11k eventually? Even non-HOD teachers?

That's about 150k a year including bonuses. High!


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Let us not use the term 'all' because it is not mathematically correct. But many (degree holders) do attain this range if they work long enough. For the case of non-HOD teachers, the senior teachers actually have an alternative path called specialist track (or something similar)

There will be endless debates about the magnitude of the salary. If you say it is high, people will flood this forum with doctors' pay and lawyers' salary and what have you. Conversely, if you say it is low, there will be other benchmarks (perhaps engineers? haha. Again, that is contentious)
So, typically, how many years does it take these degree holders (assuming non-scholars) to reach 10k?

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I need some clarifications,

Is SAF Regulars considered under 'Civil Service'?
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Let us not use the term 'all' because it is not mathematically correct. But many (degree holders) do attain this range if they work long enough. For the case of non-HOD teachers, the senior teachers actually have an alternative path called specialist track (or something similar)

There will be endless debates about the magnitude of the salary. If you say it is high, people will flood this forum with doctors' pay and lawyers' salary and what have you. Conversely, if you say it is low, there will be other benchmarks (perhaps engineers? haha. Again, that is contentious)
based on my personal observations ( i do not have hard data), 8k will be the ceiling for normal white collars in civil service.
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My non-scholar colleagues who are in their late 30s to mid 40s earn around 7 to 8+K. I believe that they will hit around 9-10K in their late 40s or early 50s. I know that some of them have the CEP to reach super-scale grades.

I am not sure whether soldiers are considered civil servants or not but in general Mindef operates in a different way. They do have more resources and autonomy. I dont work in Mindef so I cannot comment much. But I do notice that they have their own guidelines and regulations as compared to the other Ministries.

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My non-scholar colleagues who are in their late 30s to mid 40s earn around 7 to 8+K. I believe that they will hit around 9-10K in their late 40s or early 50s. I know that some of them have the CEP to reach super-scale grades.

I am not sure whether soldiers are considered civil servants or not but in general Mindef operates in a different way. They do have more resources and autonomy. I dont work in Mindef so I cannot comment much. But I do notice that they have their own guidelines and regulations as compared to the other Ministries.
That is useful info, thanks for sharing. Looks like quite a decent pay even for non-scholars.
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Yes, I think decent pay is the most appropriate word to describe civil service wages. The biggest attractions of working in the civil service are the work-life balance and job stability, even in times of recession.

If you are still in school, try to aim for a 2nd upper class because the civil service is quite particular about grades.

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That is useful info, thanks for sharing. Looks like quite a decent pay even for non-scholars.
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My non-scholar colleagues who are in their late 30s to mid 40s earn around 7 to 8+K. I believe that they will hit around 9-10K in their late 40s or early 50s. I know that some of them have the CEP to reach super-scale grades.

I am not sure whether soldiers are considered civil servants or not but in general Mindef operates in a different way. They do have more resources and autonomy. I dont work in Mindef so I cannot comment much. But I do notice that they have their own guidelines and regulations as compared to the other Ministries.
Thanks for the clarifications. I'm a local uni undergrad, thinking of joining a civil service or stat board after graduation.

Was wondering if skills in stat boards eg EDB, MAS is transferable to private sector. I'm keen in doing policy.

Passed a good chance to sign on in SAF when i was in NS and skills that are nontransferable was my main concern then (and now).
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Thanks for the clarifications. I'm a local uni undergrad, thinking of joining a civil service or stat board after graduation.

Was wondering if skills in stat boards eg EDB, MAS is transferable to private sector. I'm keen in doing policy.

Passed a good chance to sign on in SAF when i was in NS and skills that are nontransferable was my main concern then (and now).
same concern here bro. But sometimes if private coys couldn't offer you the opportunity to begin your career then just have to do with what is available then decide from then on.
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