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29-07-2012, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Not true. i've heard of an ex-police officer (non-scholar) converted to AO scheme. And is now a ministry perm sec.
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you must be talking about BL. Gone are the days when people rise like this. People who were in the right place at right time like BL and BK may not rise like they did nowadays.
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29-07-2012, 03:46 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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just curious, are civil servants (farmers on the peasant MX scheme, not AO) able to lead a decent quality of life with the salary they are getting? decent meaning able to afford hdb, kids, overseas holidays and spare some cash for savings/investment?
and do you think you could be earning more if you took a different path i.e private instead of civil service? possibly happier too? i know it could be hard to imagine or predict but really curious to know how you all think.
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29-07-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by icy water
just curious, are civil servants (farmers on the peasant MX scheme, not AO) able to lead a decent quality of life with the salary they are getting? decent meaning able to afford hdb, kids, overseas holidays and spare some cash for savings/investment?
and do you think you could be earning more if you took a different path i.e private instead of civil service? possibly happier too? i know it could be hard to imagine or predict but really curious to know how you all think.
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It depends on what your decent quality of life means:
HDB - definitely can. Just a matter of whether you ballot or resale, 3 room or EC, prime central location, or outlying ulu area. The range can run from $200,000 to $1,000,000.
Kids - PAP kindergarten or atas montessori, tuition or not....... homebrand diapers or branded diapers?
Holidays - An annual holiday for a family of four is easily more than 10k a pop...... on a civil servant's salary, probably only if you were childless. If you had 2 kids...... maybe you can only do it once every three or four years?
Spare cash - Should probably rank this above holiday, car, and other luxury items.
For young people, civil service is probably unfulfilling to some. Not rewarding enough for ambitious young minds, wanting to "make it big", and "earn big bucks", so they feel they aren't "moving up the ladder" quickly enough. For driven young people like those, probably taking a punt in the private sector is a good thing. Of course, not all will do well, and some will probably be worse off than if they were in govt. service.
At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself what your character, your needs and wants, etc, are more suited for civil service or private sector.
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29-07-2012, 05:02 PM
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EDB starting salary (degree)
Hi, anybody here knows about EDB starting salary?
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30-07-2012, 02:14 PM
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Junior Member
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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MX Scheme
Hi everyone,
I have been offered by one ministry. The second ministry says they are keen but can only confirm the offer after two weeks. The first ministry wants me to reply asap but I'm trying to hold out to see how much the second ministry is offering.
My question is, is the MX scheme the same for both ministries? Will my salary be the same?
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30-07-2012, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yx12345
Hi everyone,
I have been offered by one ministry. The second ministry says they are keen but can only confirm the offer after two weeks. The first ministry wants me to reply asap but I'm trying to hold out to see how much the second ministry is offering.
My question is, is the MX scheme the same for both ministries? Will my salary be the same?
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Question:
-Are you fresh grad or with exp previously?
-Wat class of honours?
-With NS or no- NS?
-local degree or private degree?
how much did the 1st ministry offer you?
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30-07-2012, 02:49 PM
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Junior Member
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Question:
-Are you fresh grad or with exp previously?
-Wat class of honours?
-With NS or no- NS?
-local degree or private degree?
how much did the 1st ministry offer you?
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-Are you fresh grad or with exp previously? Fresh Grad.
-Wat class of honours? My class of honours is the same regardless of which ministry I go to..
-With NS or no- NS? With NS.
-local degree or private degree? Local.
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31-07-2012, 12:31 AM
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Would you leave a ministry for stat board?
Currently working in a Ministry for a little over a year only, and am interested to apply for a stat board job. So would like to find out
-What's the benefits/package differences (in terms of annual incre, etc) between ministries and stat boards?
-would you jump from a ministry to stat board? why?
Appreciate your inputs! TIA
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31-07-2012, 11:31 AM
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Be Content
i am in civil service.
i was clearing 7 days of AL last week. (I still have 5 weeks remaining). I got the opportunity to have meals with many of my friends, ex-colleagues and ex-classmates.
one is a doctor who just past all her speciailist exams, another is in ship financing at a foreign bank, corresponded with a financial controller based in somewher in Asia, a SIA and a Silkair pilot, a secondary teacher, a conveyancing lawyer, an a few others. i am in civil service.
all of my friends have very good income, most well above mine. i think all of them owns a car, some continential. i don't.
except for the pilots, most of them work almost twice the working hours compared to me. the doctor, banker, financial controller, lawyer and secondary school teacher are all single. we are all in our early to mid-thirties, all Chinese, well educated. Many of us hold further and/or foreign degrees as well as coveted professional titles.
why am i writing this thread? a few days ago, the govt and media highlighted the dire birth rate in Singapore. a dedicated website is launched just on population issues (not sure what purpose will this website serve), and there is talk to explore longer maternality leave and other parenthood benefits. MCYS made incremental steps by shortening the reimbursement period to companies for maternity make-up salary.
but frankly, how many of us will really lower our social and economic expectations (by a lot but then still to a rather ok level) to start a family or simply to enjoy other aspects of life such as exercise or community events. many of these friends dress in fine clothes but are physically unfit and have never entered a community centre or took part in a community event in their recent memory. maybe because they are working more than 80hours a week.
both me and my wife just crossed our $5k threshold monthly income. combined we earn more than $10k per month. annually its around $150k. truthfully speaking we don't feel this is adequate to meet our expectations. our need HDB flat and renovations ($70k cash including applicances and furniture) almost wiped out all our cash. that's we are hesisitating to spurlge $70k on COE alone for a new car. i buy groupon vouchers for discounted car rental to refresh my driving skills once a while.
but frankly i am lucky. as i don't have to work weekends and OTs are uncommon. in fact i just finished the entire 90 espisodes of DVD korean drama Ju Meng during my leave. (the DVD's cost me $30 + maybe $50 aircon at home but saves me lots of money compared to a holiday). civil service still has its perks.
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