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Old 29-05-2020, 03:35 PM
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Assuming with offers on the table from both, MAS option for a start is a no-brainer i think.

If its just for considerations, do always explore both options and more. E.g. you might prefer ESG but be ready to be rejected or not being shortlisted. Same applies to MAS.

Progression is all in your hands, depending on your smarts and performance. MAS salary is seen as higher cause of the way its structured.

Hope these info helps.
Hmmm heard that altho MAS does not have 13th month etc, they have group bonus & personal performance bonus which pegs to local banks structure. Base pay is also high compared to other govt organisations. ESG's culture & progression is a problem, otherwise work is more fun

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Hmmm heard that altho MAS does not have 13th month etc, they have group bonus & personal performance bonus which pegs to local banks structure. Base pay is also high compared to other govt organisations. ESG's culture & progression is a problem, otherwise work is more fun
aws is merged to based pay.

do you know their annual package for avg performer? if so, i can share with you if the other min/sb offers similar package

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Are you referring to the graduate program for both organisations? I thought positions for both have closed alrdy? Anyway MAS & EDB are much better places to start your career in terms of experience and pay
MAS closed last month, but I just received ESG offer this week.

Thanks for your input!

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Hahah ok so I’m not alone with that thinking. Maybe he’s referring to total comp looks high due to 16mths (eg) but base is Low?
i think he mean the other way.

basic looks high but total comp is lower compare to the other agencies.

-> because mas paid aws every mth
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Hi Gurus here,

I'm a local fresh grad. 25 this year, male with NS. economics degree 2nd upper.

just got offered by msf,

gross: $3560
grade: MX13
2 years contract

Is this a reasonable offer? Is there any room for negotiation (to 3800)?
Is it normal for fresh grads to get 2 year contracts, and not perm positions? Or is it just because of the covid situation?

Thanks!
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Old 29-05-2020, 05:20 PM
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Quite bad lah.. basically playing with numbers. otherwise no one would join also..
actually ok. assuming MAS and another agency offer the same annual package but in MAS you get the money first (pay u more every month, lesser bonus).

its always to get the money first isn't it? you nvr know what will happen to economics or your performance
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i think he mean the other way.

basic looks high but total comp is lower compare to the other agencies.

-> because mas paid aws every mth
Lol i'm pretty sure MAS total comp is one of the highest in the civil/public service...
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Lol i'm pretty sure MAS total comp is one of the highest in the civil/public service...
can share how many months for average performer?
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Hi Gurus here,

I'm a local fresh grad. 25 this year, male with NS. economics degree 2nd upper.

just got offered by msf,

gross: $3560
grade: MX13
2 years contract

Is this a reasonable offer? Is there any room for negotiation (to 3800)?
Is it normal for fresh grads to get 2 year contracts, and not perm positions? Or is it just because of the covid situation?

Thanks!

Are you able to give us more information on the position you got offered? What kind of role? Frontline officer, policy officer etc? Usually the salary is fixed ah so you should check if the salary corresponds to the typical pay of your role
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Old 29-05-2020, 05:30 PM
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can share how many months for average performer?
depending on which role/dept you're from. some can be 1.5-2.5mths while others can go up to 4-6.
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