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25-05-2019, 12:03 AM
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Hi, i’m a grad to be in July, and I just finished an interview at a stat board last week and recently received a call to ask if i have any academic achievements or other achievements at uni - i didn’t mention any of those during my interview. Do they matter on whether i get the job or not?
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25-05-2019, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Does a SIM degree lower one's CEP from the start? I'm from a ministry, currently MX12 for more than 5 plus years. Gotten C+ C C B B but show how I'm always passed over for promotion. My peers from NUS/ NTU with similar or worse performance grades are promoted already.. I tried to ask my RO and he said its partly due to lower CEP I had when I started.. Is due to my degree?
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i dont think is CEP. It is likely due to your lower starting pay, hence, it takes longer for you to reach the pay range of MX11 even with more increment per year. but not to worry, the gap will close up and you will eventually overtake your peer if you consistently perform better than them.
just have to accept the fact that it takes much more for a private uni to move up the ladder compare to a local uni.
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25-05-2019, 12:12 AM
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Who knows ur CEP? HR, RO?
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25-05-2019, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
i dont think is CEP. It is likely due to your lower starting pay, hence, it takes longer for you to reach the pay range of MX11 even with more increment per year. but not to worry, the gap will close up and you will eventually overtake your peer if you consistently perform better than them.
just have to accept the fact that it takes much more for a private uni to move up the ladder compare to a local uni.
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Just to share my own experience also. I recently did a recruitment for my team in a SB. the position offered was deputy manager / manager, depends on the profile of the candidate. note : dm or m is decide by HR, not me or my boss
ironically, interesting fact i found out is HR will first look at the candidate last drawn pay, apply some formula and work out the offer.
eg. the salary work out to be 6k, HR will see the profile of this candidate,
if is from private uni, 6k will be pegged to Manager (due to lower starting pay in range)
if is from local uni, 6k will be pegged to deputy manager (due to mid starting pay in range)
what i want to say is no matter what, your salary will be very largely based on your last drawn for exp candidate while the eventual position offered will then be reverse engineer to the appropriate grade based on your profile
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25-05-2019, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
If they can peg starting salaries for fresh graduate differently, i don't see how CEP has to be the same. In fact, the increase salary to the next range is bigger for you than a 2:1 NUS grad who started possible a few hundred dollars more.
If not, what do you determined your CEP - the 20-45 mins conversation you have before you start work? I think after all interviews, most people gets set on the default CEP based on a benchmark based on their background, and reviewed periodically.
Maybe the others in your department are better then that why the deserved to be promoted before you.
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Just as how a FCH person will have a higher CEP than someone with 2:1
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25-05-2019, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Does a SIM degree lower one's CEP from the start? I'm from a ministry, currently MX12 for more than 5 plus years. Gotten C+ C C B B but show how I'm always passed over for promotion. My peers from NUS/ NTU with similar or worse performance grades are promoted already.. I tried to ask my RO and he said its partly due to lower CEP I had when I started.. Is due to my degree?
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Jialat lor. High chance your CEP is only at mx11..
Is your current RO the RO for your first year as well?
First year is the most impt year as your RO will give an estimated of your CEP.
Of course they say CEP can be reviewed and adjust but it's hard. Example if your RO evaluates you to be only mx11 potential, it needs serious justification to change your CEP to example mx10. Scholars get promote fast because usually their CEP is at mx 8 or 9.
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25-05-2019, 10:03 AM
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real CEP only done after a few years down the road. for first few years usually same as ur batch. As a RO who has been giving CEP grades, I can tell u that your performance in first few years are more critical than your class of honours.
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25-05-2019, 10:53 AM
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don't sprout nonsense. CEP is can only be proposed by Senior Directors and approved by PSes. You, as a RO, probably can just indicate your opinion of the employee's CEP in the SAR (rightmost tab). But this is inconsequential.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
real CEP only done after a few years down the road. for first few years usually same as ur batch. As a RO who has been giving CEP grades, I can tell u that your performance in first few years are more critical than your class of honours.
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25-05-2019, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
don't sprout nonsense. CEP is can only be proposed by Senior Directors and approved by PSes. You, as a RO, probably can just indicate your opinion of the employee's CEP in the SAR (rightmost tab). But this is inconsequential.
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Yes, i heard that CEP must be approved by PSes.
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