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Originally Posted by Unregistered

i mean i am a fresh grad, drawing mid 3k as well. Take 200 as a increment, its about 5%.. from the view of percentage, it seems decent.. but from the point of absolute amount, it is quite miserable..

From my limited understanding, promotion usually means 500 odd dollars, increment usually 3-6% more commonly closer to 6%. Those people who have nowhere else to go, will end up with the lower end of the spectrum.

In a SB.

Does one’s boss play a part to determine the increment? Or just cep?

Am 5 years into the ministry. Non-scholar. Thinking to jump to SBs. is the pay higher?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Am 5 years into the ministry. Non-scholar. Thinking to jump to SBs. is the pay higher?

No, so far all the MRO, (mindef related organisations) SB all pay badly. Ministry pays comparatively better in terms of progression and gross salary. Bonus structure is identical.

Maybe others in say... Investment or financial can share their thoughts.

Anyone knows what is the starting pay for LTA engineer?
NUS engin degree, 2nd upper.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone knows what is the starting pay for LTA engineer?
NUS engin degree, 2nd upper.

around 3.3-3.6k.. with mid yr, yr end bonus, aws, performance bonus and MAC.. around 16mths package plus

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No, so far all the MRO, (mindef related organisations) SB all pay badly. Ministry pays comparatively better in terms of progression and gross salary. Bonus structure is identical.

Maybe others in say... Investment or financial can share their thoughts.

not sure about the pay range and progression.. but ministry typical gives a nicer title.. ie AD in a ministry is equivalent to a manager in some of the SB

Originally Posted by Unregistered

not sure about the pay range and progression.. but ministry typical gives a nicer title.. ie AD in a ministry is equivalent to a manager in some of the SB

However in my experience, AD in ministry is really paid as AD. Whereas Manager in SB can be paid like AM in ministry.

If salary is an indication of the demands, then AD in ministry is not equivalent manager in SB.

Manager in SB usually are not involved in strategy, they only take instruction from HOD and manage the operations staff or the vendors. In SB, AD can be considered HOD. They do get involved in strategy with upper management.

This is my opinion. I have heard of others also saying what you suggested, my opinion is they don't understand the nuances of each role. In their simplified perspective AM, M SM is all manager. AD, D, XD is all director.

Of course, when doing the real work it is not so clear cut plus everyone want to shine to be promoted thus the boundary is very grey. A person who wants to move from M to SM will always involve themselves in strategy though it is not required of them.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

However in my experience, AD in ministry is really paid as AD. Whereas Manager in SB can be paid like AM in ministry.

If salary is an indication of the demands, then AD in ministry is not equivalent manager in SB.

Manager in SB usually are not involved in strategy, they only take instruction from HOD and manage the operations staff or the vendors. In SB, AD can be considered HOD. They do get involved in strategy with upper management.

This is my opinion. I have heard of others also saying what you suggested, my opinion is they don't understand the nuances of each role. In their simplified perspective AM, M SM is all manager. AD, D, XD is all director.

Of course, when doing the real work it is not so clear cut plus everyone want to shine to be promoted thus the boundary is very grey. A person who wants to move from M to SM will always involve themselves in strategy though it is not required of them.

i am a AD in one of the ministry drawing less than 7k. my friend is a Manager in a SB drawing more than me. a Manager in my ministry is drawing only 5k plus. of cose i am also aware there are other smaller SB that had a DD equivalent to my level of salary.

You may be right about the job scope though since in general, we in Ministry are the one who work on the strategic routemap while SB are the one who execute it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

From my limited understanding, promotion usually means 500 odd dollars, increment usually 3-6% more commonly closer to 6%. Those people who have nowhere else to go, will end up with the lower end of the spectrum.

In a SB.

6% sounds encouraging! pray hard