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Old 15-03-2019, 03:21 PM
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I'm not picking on your answer I'm just using it as a springboard.

Friend A. Music teacher with SB. Music higher degree join ministry to do music, higher degree disregarded

Friend B. Engineer with SB. Engineering higher degree joins ministry to do engineering, higher degree disregarded.

Friend C. Business student with SB. FCH, no higher degree joins ministry doing something not so business... salary obviously considered FCH.

Friend D. PhD. FCH salary only but highly regarded by his boss and words carry a lot of weight. Being groomed.

It seems like only professional certificates such as ACCA, CFA, professional engineer, are valuable. The rest maybe open the doors for promotion if you are lucky.
Yea agree, what is deemed 'relevant' can often be very subjective....

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Old 16-03-2019, 09:38 AM
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Thumbs down Lower PB

Realised the PB this year is lower than previous years for the same grade. Same for you guys too? Govt cutting cost...

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Seems like the PB is lower this year compared to previous years for the same grade. Govt cutting cost. Time to look for alternatives.

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Seems like the PB is lower this year compared to previous years for the same grade. Govt cutting cost. Time to look for alternatives.
New in SB, no PB for me. but can share roughly how many mths u getting?
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Seems like the PB is lower this year compared to previous years for the same grade. Govt cutting cost. Time to look for alternatives.
pb has been too high for the past few years, cooling measures now is only temporary, i would suggest stay put


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I have graduated from local uni back in 2014.

How much would it be an average annual package should I join the government?
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I have graduated from local uni back in 2014.

How much would it be an average annual package should I join the government?
gross monthly salary of 3025
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I have graduated from local uni back in 2014.

How much would it be an average annual package should I join the government?
what's your degree and class of honors?
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Seems like the PB is lower this year compared to previous years for the same grade. Govt cutting cost. Time to look for alternatives.
If you want to come out from CS, better do it when young because CS work experience doesnt count for much in the private sector. The other factor is the energy level is higher when younger and you will need this higher energy level in the competitive environment in the private sector. The "typical" movement is for people in the private sector to get into the CS after they have amassed enough wealth from their private sector jobs, and they want a lower work tempo albeit lower remuneration in the CS.


I am a "true blue" CS employee, having worked more than 33 years in the CS. I have countless colleagues leaving the CS to join the private sector with varying levels of success. A few have done well in the private sector rising to top management levels while a big majority have not. Those who were not successful in the private sector ended up worse off than those of us sticking through thick and thin with the CS. On the other hand, those who were successful in the private sector are miles ahead of us both in terms of management level as well as wealth accumulation.

Now, ironically, those that did not fare well outside (in the private sector) are trying to get back into the CS, but without success (even though they were willing to settle for lower pay), and those that the CS wanted back are those who are successful but are not willing to come back into the CS.

You have to decide early whether you want to try out the private sector and not wait till you are over 30.

When I compare with my ex-classmates from the uni, I think I (with a career in CS) am among the top 15 in the class in terms of career progression and wealth. Many who worked in the private sector have experienced one retrenchment! At our current age, some of my classmates have stopped working because they have given up looking for a job, but as you know, in the CS, we can work beyond 62. The choice is ours.
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If you want to come out from CS, better do it when young because CS work experience doesnt count for much in the private sector. The other factor is the energy level is higher when younger and you will need this higher energy level in the competitive environment in the private sector. The "typical" movement is for people in the private sector to get into the CS after they have amassed enough wealth from their private sector jobs, and they want a lower work tempo albeit lower remuneration in the CS.


I am a "true blue" CS employee, having worked more than 33 years in the CS. I have countless colleagues leaving the CS to join the private sector with varying levels of success. A few have done well in the private sector rising to top management levels while a big majority have not. Those who were not successful in the private sector ended up worse off than those of us sticking through thick and thin with the CS. On the other hand, those who were successful in the private sector are miles ahead of us both in terms of management level as well as wealth accumulation.

Now, ironically, those that did not fare well outside (in the private sector) are trying to get back into the CS, but without success (even though they were willing to settle for lower pay), and those that the CS wanted back are those who are successful but are not willing to come back into the CS.

You have to decide early whether you want to try out the private sector and not wait till you are over 30.

When I compare with my ex-classmates from the uni, I think I (with a career in CS) am among the top 15 in the class in terms of career progression and wealth. Many who worked in the private sector have experienced one retrenchment! At our current age, some of my classmates have stopped working because they have given up looking for a job, but as you know, in the CS, we can work beyond 62. The choice is ours.
Thanks for sharing. What is your deciding factor to stay in CS and not venture out to private sector.

I have not worked in CS but dont think I can afford the risk of being jobless when I am in my 40s.
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