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Unregistered 05-06-2020 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lavenderblues (Post 136556)
Hello all, have been working in CS for 2.5years. Just became a MX12 last year. My MI that I received this year was only 3.5%. Is it normal for it to be so low? Cant help feeling disappointed regarding my MI and have no motivation to work now.. the grade I got was C+

Which Ministry ?
How much was your pay before and after ?

Unregistered 06-06-2020 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lavenderblues (Post 136556)
Hello all, have been working in CS for 2.5years. Just became a MX12 last year. My MI that I received this year was only 3.5%. Is it normal for it to be so low? Cant help feeling disappointed regarding my MI and have no motivation to work now.. the grade I got was C+

3.5% isn't that bad for MI with C+. When you get your promotion in grade, you were given a significant bump in salary, no?

Unregistered 06-06-2020 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 136508)
Hi all, seeking some advice.

29y. currently in pte industry.
Work experience approx. 4 yrs (creative and PR)
Pte uni (FCH), Arts.
NS in Mindef (if relevant at all)

Planning a switch to CS, specifically DSTA/MND/IMDA. Either in corp comms or policy track.

Reasonable to look at payscale 5k up? Would I enter as MX12?
Current sal is low 4k.

Thanks in advance!

When you hoping from private to CS, it is better to be equiped with at least 5 years of relevant experience or they won't be taking much of the experience into account for formulating salary.
Did the job listed commensurate with experience? Listed at least how many years of experience needed?
If none of the above, the offered range will probably at the lowest range on the grade.
After interview, internal they will pose a possible grade on you for the job.

Unregistered 06-06-2020 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 136571)
In general, its not about the age per say. Its more about specific skillsets or directly relevant experience you being to CS/PS. Excluding high potential officers, most mid-30s are SMs or ADs.

Agreed. Haven't known anyone less than 15 years experience joining CS as SM. Assuming a graduate age 25, adding 15 years experience and will be around 40 yo. Therefore high potential officers under age 40 obtaining SM/AD is not norm. Title is one factor, salary range at lower or upper is another factor. It depend on the role if a SM/AD/DD is needed.

1) Don't need to factor in age.
2) It's depend on the role you are applying
3) Based on your past experience in fitting into the role
4) To be graded as SM, at least 15 yrs of relevant experience needed with minimum 8 years in managerial / senior / lead role
5) Don't based on your current drawn as the range will be based on given grade

Unregistered 06-06-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 136776)
The current traineeship scheme is not meant to be a job. Individuals under this scheme will not be allocated a "grade". It is also not a permanent placement. It is a fixed 12 month programme to give fresh grads a fighting chance once this is all over.

s://.wsg.gov.sg/SGUnitedTraineeships-Trainees.html

Exactly!

University degree or above: $1800-$2500
Polytechnic diploma or professional qualifications: $1300-$1800
ITE or equivalent: $1,100 - $1,500
(from website)

so to 2.2 OP you still think you're underpaid? obviously $2200 is on the higher end of the traineeship salary range for your qualifications already wad so see it for what it is (traineeship) and appreciate the offer

Unregistered 06-06-2020 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 136776)
The current traineeship scheme is not meant to be a job. Individuals under this scheme will not be allocated a "grade". It is also not a permanent placement. It is a fixed 12 month programme to give fresh grads a fighting chance once this is all over.

s://.wsg.gov.sg/SGUnitedTraineeships-Trainees.html

This could be a norm towards the future for gov. Hiring through traineeship, an extended probation.
In fact, traineeship program is a norm in overseas before actual hiring. Isn't doctor and lawyer went through such scheme as well?

Unregistered 06-06-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137002)
This could be a norm towards the future for gov. Hiring through traineeship, an extended probation.
In fact, traineeship program is a norm in overseas before actual hiring. Isn't doctor and lawyer went through such scheme as well?

Yup, overseas they call it an apprenticeship which usually pivots the apprentice into the full time, permanent position.

Unregistered 06-06-2020 07:55 PM

You need to be YES MAN if you want good increments in govt sector.

MCIsadboy 06-06-2020 09:06 PM

low starting salary nus fch fresh grad
 
(Hello! Sorry, I posted this on another thread. Please let me know if it's ok to do that or not!)

I'm an NUS FCH graduate that recently started work in February at MCI with a gross monthly salary of $3.2K. I know that the 75th percentile has a median salary of $3.9K in my course. I accepted the job because I thought COVID affected the job market and I should just snatch whatever I get, since I'm a really risk-averse guy.

Can someone please advise on whether I should make the attempt to jump ship now? I know I may not land another role, but I'm wondering if I should try. I was going to stick it out for 1 year and then leave, but a person I know in MSF who works as an AD says there's no need to wait, I should jump ship now. I enjoy what I do and I really am grateful for this job, but I'm scared the longer I wait, the more my career will be affected.

Would really, really appreciate any advice. Should I at least attempt to interview at other ministries? I don't know whether jumping ship in just 3-4 months is a really bad look that will also haunt me wherever I go, but I also do need the pay as I'm supporting not just my family but my grandparents.

Thanks!

Unregistered 06-06-2020 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MCIsadboy (Post 137087)
(Hello! Sorry, I posted this on another thread. Please let me know if it's ok to do that or not!)

I'm an NUS FCH graduate that recently started work in February at MCI with a gross monthly salary of $3.2K. I know that the 75th percentile has a median salary of $3.9K in my course. I accepted the job because I thought COVID affected the job market and I should just snatch whatever I get, since I'm a really risk-averse guy.

Can someone please advise on whether I should make the attempt to jump ship now? I know I may not land another role, but I'm wondering if I should try. I was going to stick it out for 1 year and then leave, but a person I know in MSF who works as an AD says there's no need to wait, I should jump ship now. I enjoy what I do and I really am grateful for this job, but I'm scared the longer I wait, the more my career will be affected.

Would really, really appreciate any advice. Should I at least attempt to interview at other ministries? I don't know whether jumping ship in just 3-4 months is a really bad look that will also haunt me wherever I go, but I also do need the pay as I'm supporting not just my family but my grandparents.

Thanks!

yes find others and go!!!!


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