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Old 30-05-2020, 02:00 PM
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its combined to the basic.. thats why the basic is higher compare to ppl in other agencies of the same grade

there are other SB who combine a portion of bonus to basic as well. like govtech or edb
To my understanding, EDB & MAS also have personal performance bonus as well as group bonus. So their total comp is really high

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How about going to private sector and find yourself being retrenched at 40 years ago?
Dont forget, private sector peeps, with their years of experience in private sector, can easily join CS if they are retrenched and take on leadership positions (minimum grade MX11A or MX10) and earn decently high salary.

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Don’t include bonuses, but include employer CPF contribution
what a joke. might as well include coffee machine and water cooler into your annual package eh?

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what a joke. might as well include coffee machine and water cooler into your annual package eh?
At least he didn’t throw in flexi benefits or include other benefits in kind lol. Prob took the definition of “gross salary” from those published stats. Book knowledge/theory FTW.

Seriously, some of these fresh grads need to get real.
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lol this thread is amusing. my gross was flat and what was stated in LOA, no coffee machine benefit, AVC stuff.
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That was what i thought when i was much younger. Was in the pte sector back then. Then i joined CS and have been in there for more than ten years. It is quite unlikely. Standard reason quoted is that the skillsets are different. Need to work one's way up and rise through the ranks. There are also many many high calibre people in the CS with illustrious qualifications. Unless one is headhunted by a high level person.

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Dont forget, private sector peeps, with their years of experience in private sector, can easily join CS if they are retrenched and take on leadership positions (minimum grade MX11A or MX10) and earn decently high salary.
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To my understanding, EDB & MAS also have personal performance bonus as well as group bonus. So their total comp is really high
which is better - EDB or MAS? i only know it's very hard to get MAS scholarship
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which is better - EDB or MAS? i only know it's very hard to get MAS scholarship
from my view, both are good and it really depends on your own considerations and decision
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which is better - EDB or MAS? i only know it's very hard to get MAS scholarship
EDB scholarship also very hard to get. The graduate associate programs for both organisations are also tremendously difficult to get in... almost 5/6 rounds of selection
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Assuming $300 every year increment, it is only 6k plus at 10 yrs due to low pay. But I don't know will $300 a year for every year possible.
Means ur salary at the lower end of mx11

Im sure the increment amounts w change as u progress. 550 may be 250 PI n 300 MI for mx12.

U wont know until nxt yr if ur increment increased from the usual.

Btw 2 promos in 3 yrs is quite good progression. Lemme give u my progression as follows - FCH, no NS. Went into civil service 6 months after graduation.

2015 feb - mx13: 34xx
2015 aug - mx13: 36xx (2xx MI)
2016 feb - mx12: 39xx (3XX PI/MI) C
2016 - mx12: 40xx (6X MI prorated)
2017 - mx12: 42xx (2xx MI) B
2018 - mx12: 46xx (3xx MI) B
2019 - mx12: 49xx (3xx MI) B
2020 - mx11 (may update salary n increment again when I have the time)

I will call myself average but most of my colleagues havent promoted yet - even when we got recruited at around the same time. So in gist mx13 To mx12 usually takes a year; mx12 To mx11 will be 3 to 5 yrs. then depending on ur cep and performance you can go higher to mx11a in the next 5 years or mx10 in the next 5 yrs. Many pple will remain at mx11 or mx11a for a pretty long time.

The crux of the matter might be your age though. Are you a mid career hire? You might not have the long runway to farm up the ranks like the fresh grads. Getting stuck at mx11 is not ideal, especially since you have to start from entry level all over again.

If you are not a mid career hire, then the year on year promotion is actually very good progression. Even scholars dont get promoted any faster than you do. If this progression does not satisfy you, then you probably will need to find a better job elsewhere. Civil service Remuneration will not be able to keep you happy in the long run. MI usually remains relatively constant from what I observed in my experience.

Ps. $7k to $8k is possible in 7 to 10 years in most of the ministries if you perform well. Some of the more elite sb might pay their employees more.
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