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Old 27-05-2020, 10:19 AM
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May I know if contract employees e.g. (1 year, 2 year) in ministries/SB are entitled to any bonuses which the permanent employees usually get? How about benefits?

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May I know if contract employees e.g. (1 year, 2 year) in ministries/SB are entitled to any bonuses which the permanent employees usually get? How about benefits?
direct contract? or third party contract?

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Old 27-05-2020, 11:03 AM
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Can I ask how does the income bracket work? Assuming I start at mx 12 and the range is between 3 to 6k and in between w increment to about 3.6k. Upon promotion to 11a which is from 4.7 to 7k, how should the increment look like? Thanks!
firstly, after mx12 is mx11

upon promotion your salary will falls within the new range. if you are currently drawing 3.6 and the next range starts at 4.7, it is unlikely you will be promoted this year (there are definitely exception though)

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Old 27-05-2020, 11:27 AM
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Shouldn't the gov ban the practice of employers asking for payslips? With how the economy is now, fresh grads will get a low starting salary and other workers will experience a pay cut. When they move jobs, they'll forever be scarred by their lower pay due to COVID-19. Even promotions will be based on this cut pay.

In the U.S. this is already a thing to prevent employers from lowballing those who unfortunately had a low-paying job previously. There are other ways to verify employment and you should be paying a person for what they currently do, not what they were previously paid.
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direct contract? or third party contract?
direct contract
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:49 PM
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yes, you will be entitled with all benefits and bonuses
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Shouldn't the gov ban the practice of employers asking for payslips? With how the economy is now, fresh grads will get a low starting salary and other workers will experience a pay cut. When they move jobs, they'll forever be scarred by their lower pay due to COVID-19. Even promotions will be based on this cut pay.

In the U.S. this is already a thing to prevent employers from lowballing those who unfortunately had a low-paying job previously. There are other ways to verify employment and you should be paying a person for what they currently do, not what they were previously paid.
im a hr person and i agree with this. i dislike the "last drawn + 10 to 15%" for ur new job salary..
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im a hr person and i agree with this. i dislike the "last drawn + 10 to 15%" for ur new job salary..
I agree. Itís a double-edged sword. The contrasting argument could be made where the person was paid higher in previous jobs due to corporate structure or industry specific remuneration. And for the same pay, there could be other intangibles that matter.

While a double blind test sounds perfect, i canít deny money is still the overriding factor in most cases and hence the first effective filter for both applicants and hiring manager.
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im a hr person and i agree with this. i dislike the "last drawn + 10 to 15%" for ur new job salary..
SME (2 yrs) -> $1500 to $1720 (14mths)
complete my part time degree age 24

MNC (9 yrs) -> $2500 to $6020 (15.5mths)
GLC (1 yr) -> $7120 (16.5mths)
SB (3 yrs) -> $6400 to $7700 (avg 18.5mths)
local bank (less than a yr) -> $11000 (avg 15mths)

i am currently 37 this year. I think the 10 to 15% guide increment from last drawn dont really apply if you are in private sector
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Old 27-05-2020, 07:43 PM
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maybe you are right if you compare with ministry. ministry tend to give higher designation
for govtech, you should compare with other SB. in general being in IT, you are always at the specialist scheme, hence your designation are usually towards the techy.

A AD in Govtech is not equal to a AD or even a SAD in ministry. he or she is more senior than the designation reflect.

I am in a IT division of a SB under MOT. over here,
mx13 = assistant manager / engineer
mx12 = assistant manager / engineer
mx11 = deputy manager / senior engineer
mx11A = deputy manager / manager / principle engineer
mx10 lower = manager / senior manager / senior principle engineer
mx10 upper = senior manager / DD / principle architect
mx9 = DD / D

yes mx10 can be just a manager or even a senior princple engineer designation here.
But that does not mean he or she is a mx12 equivalence if he or she go to a ministry.

last year my colleague Manager transfer to a ministry and hr matches his grade at SAD
Anyone has any idea what is mx equivalent grade for a DD in LTA? TIA!
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