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Old 09-11-2019, 02:14 PM
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Out civil service is vastly overpaid and contributing to high overhead costs and nipping away at profitability of businesses via all sorts of taxes and fees for a small nation. Time to cut away unnecessary processes and hierarchy within the org.

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Out civil service is vastly overpaid and contributing to high overhead costs and nipping away at profitability of businesses via all sorts of taxes and fees for a small nation. Time to cut away unnecessary processes and hierarchy within the org.
I used to think that way till I joined. I also used to think that civil servants were overpaid slackers. Then I joined the service.

At least where I am, we work hard as hell (frequent OT and sometimes on Saturdays too) and the pay is very low for the complexity and volume of work we do (take home ~$3k at 30+ yrs old). Not as easy or unjustified as I had thought.

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Second this. I use to think so too. But turn out to be lots of OT and workload. Not as easy as what people say.

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u have nothing better to do than to boast issit?

What's the point of saying - not fantastic being a MX10 at 34, but considered quite good?

U want forumers to disagree and praise you instead issit?

Quite loserish here.
Mx10 per month salary how much? Got 9K?
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Any suggestion which department is good for working in MAS?
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Second this. I use to think so too. But turn out to be lots of OT and workload. Not as easy as what people say.
It's not about how hard civil servants work, they can work 24/7, but the processes remain unnecessary, with unnecessary roles, obstacles, and where a flatter structure may be justified.
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It's not about how hard civil servants work, they can work 24/7, but the processes remain unnecessary, with unnecessary roles, obstacles, and where a flatter structure may be justified.
this all sounds nice and good. in reality, government organizations tend to be slightly more bureaucratic and rigid vs. private sector because incentives are aligned with error avoidance vs. in private sector where they rewarded for taking risk. which creates the perception we come to know as "cover your ass" "got black and white or not" "check the checker" type culture.

but the above is understandable because if a government body commits an error, beyond the repercussion to the country, the reaction from the public and the consequence to the ministries / ministers would be too much to bear.
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I used to think that way till I joined. I also used to think that civil servants were overpaid slackers. Then I joined the service.

At least where I am, we work hard as hell (frequent OT and sometimes on Saturdays too) and the pay is very low for the complexity and volume of work we do (take home ~$3k at 30+ yrs old). Not as easy or unjustified as I had thought.
Are you a diploma holder? Pay seems low for MX scheme.
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Mx10 per month salary how much? Got 9K?
i am currently drawing 8.2. though the ceiling is much higher
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Any suggestion which department is good for working in MAS?
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