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Old 05-05-2019, 04:03 PM
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Disagree. How hard it is to attain FCH is based on your particular major/specialisation, not your school.

A meritocratic institution like the public service strives to choose the best candidates based on his/her abilities. These pool of candidates tend to come from the 'best' universities -- largely meaning NUS/NTU/SMU. (After all, education continues to be the best way of showcasing one's abilities, especially for those w/o prior experience.) Of course, there can be exceptions and hence admission into service is not based solely on academic results or one's university. Otherwise, no need for interviews and entrant tests.
This thread has been rather informative for me when i was considering taking up an offer one of the SBs last month, so iíd like to just share my personal experience if it helps anyone. Some background info about myself, 25 turning on 26 this year, iím an economics & finance from SIM-RMIT (Distinction, because we donít have an honors program) + 2 years of NS.

I first started out as a third party temp staff (Asst Exec) for diploma holders in May 2018. Was hired based on my diploma for $2800. The temp rates for my SB was pretty standard, 2.8 for diploma holders and 3.5 for bachelor holders.

So fast forward one year and when the headcount freeze was eased, my RO pushed for me to apply for the Asst Manager role (Grade 6). Granted that i had two other pending offers along with the SB verbal offer, i was struggling to hang on to both offers until i get the salary package.

The grade 6 package i was offered was from $3,200-$5,760. And the salary offered was somewhere right smack in the middle of that range. I did check with HR if there was a distinction between private and local university applicants, he only said no (subjected to be taken with a pinch of salt). But overall, since i only had one year of experience which i wasnít sure if it was considered given that the job scope will be vastly difference, the salary was calculated based on your NS, any leadership roles in NS and your degree.


P.S. I still had to go through 2-3 rounds of internal interviews has the temp to perm conversions is no different from everyone else who applied on [email protected], i had to apply through that site too, itís just that the process was expedited in my case.

So to all the private and local universities student our there, my word of advice will really take your degree as a stepping stone to just secure your interview. After securing the interview/job, nobody is actually bothered about your degree pedigree. Your soft and technical skills will be more important. So for fellow private uni students out there, donít give up and all best! For the local U students, itís probably already a lot easier for you guys to secure interviews, so donít give up either!



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why is the economist service anal?
NTU Social Science has economics and psychology. So it was a random guess and it was wrong too.

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why is the economist service anal?
I misread the reply.

Cause they only take in people with economics degree (at least a second-upper), and I read in earlier pages that to score an interview, you will have to 'pass' a qualifying test. Stage zero is that the director screens your CV to see if you qualify for the qualifying test. Tough days. But i heard they pay well as a specialised service.

MFA is tough too.

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I misread the reply.

Cause they only take in people with economics degree (at least a second-upper), and I read in earlier pages that to score an interview, you will have to 'pass' a qualifying test. Stage zero is that the director screens your CV to see if you qualify for the qualifying test. Tough days. But i heard they pay well as a specialised service.

MFA is tough too.
Dont want to rain on anyoneís parade but virtually everyone who gets through to the end has FCH. 2:1s are rare in these schemes.
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Dont want to rain on anyoneís parade but virtually everyone who gets through to the end has FCH. 2:1s are rare in these schemes.
is it difficult to get into the scheme? how is progression like?
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is it difficult to get into the scheme? how is progression like?
i think most specialised scheme are designed to be hard, otherwise why would they pay like near 5k for FCH. Other civil service MX FCH only gets around 3.8-4.4k (in forum's range).

I think Foreign Service has an assessment centre consisting from 4-5 rounds from English test to presentation skills to Translation skills, and stress test designed for working like FO.

Haha, they are tough and the job is tough too. So kudos to them!
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I couldnt get in but I heard these schemes only take in 1% of applicants
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I couldnt get in but I heard these schemes only take in 1% of applicants
is it really so hard to get in? how is the interview for economist service like?
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is it really so hard to get in? how is the interview for economist service like?
Yes...imagine you go one round with tens of ppl but only one of them wull get hiredj
I got kicked in round 1
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is it really so hard to get in? how is the interview for economist service like?
I know this, my friend applied for it.

Need at least 2.1 Econ degree to be considered for the written test
2.5 hrs written test covering technical Macro, Micro and Econometrics and General Qs
2 rds of technical interview.

Was told that its very technical, like a verbal applied econometrics exam and they go into details of deconstructing your thesis. The best is cannot smoke because the panels are academia and professional econometricians.

Itís a very technical role anyway.
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