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Old 08-03-2019, 12:30 AM
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what is a decent starting pay for male with hons degree in a general job?
Ask your peers, after 4 years I'm sure you know each other well enough to be open about this when you meet up.

Else, Search the forum with keywords fch, offered, desired field; tada! Answered.

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Just found this forum and sharing my progress as reference. I am a diploma holder who was converted to one scheme when at a SB and then moved around after that. It's true that switching jobs gives higher salary jump, esp when I switched to private. I am MX11 and this probably is my ceiling grade unless current SB sees potential in me. In any case, not ambitious and this is comfortable. I'm not a jlb please, I work comparatively as hard as and deliver as well as the hi-pos, exceed mgt expectations sometimes. But diploma at the end of the day is still a diploma in one scheme.

Year Salary
2008 2679 Join SB
2009 2795 SB
2010 2916 SB
2011 3175 SB - promotion
2012 3475 SB
2013 3617 SB
2014 3965 SB - promotion to one-scheme
2015 4279 SB
2016 5600 Switch to private
2017 5950 Switch to another SB
2018 6179 SB

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Old 09-03-2019, 10:07 PM
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Just found this forum and sharing my progress as reference. I am a diploma holder who was converted to one scheme when at a SB and then moved around after that. It's true that switching jobs gives higher salary jump, esp when I switched to private. I am MX11 and this probably is my ceiling grade unless current SB sees potential in me. In any case, not ambitious and this is comfortable. I'm not a jlb please, I work comparatively as hard as and deliver as well as the hi-pos, exceed mgt expectations sometimes. But diploma at the end of the day is still a diploma in one scheme.

Year Salary
2008 2679 Join SB
2009 2795 SB
2010 2916 SB
2011 3175 SB - promotion
2012 3475 SB
2013 3617 SB
2014 3965 SB - promotion to one-scheme
2015 4279 SB
2016 5600 Switch to private
2017 5950 Switch to another SB
2018 6179 SB
i have masters and my salary is less than you working the same number of years.

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i have masters and my salary is less than you working the same number of years.
I'm the poster you replied to. I'm 37 this year and joined the first SB with 3 years' of work experience. It's a slow climb for me but I'm sure you will have a edge with a masters by the time you are my age.
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Old 11-03-2019, 08:18 PM
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Question Masters is easier than honours project?

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i have masters and my salary is less than you working the same number of years.
I agree. The person who posted his difficult climb, actually is quite fortunate.

Recently a few of my friends with masters complain, after putting in the effort to get masters and sacrificing family time, next job HR tells them that masters add zero value in the calculation of salary. It's just giving you an intangible advantage in terms of boss preferring you, and heighten probability of promotion (CEP if I may borrow this term)

If honours can add 200 dollars minimum, why is Masters disregarded and becomes an intangible advantage? The difficulty to obtain a Masters is not lower than an honours project.

I asked friends in HR, their closest answer is, 'boss says this position don't require' case closed.

Another case of false hopes given by gahmen that we are knowledge based economy?
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:17 PM
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I agree. The person who posted his difficult climb, actually is quite fortunate.

Recently a few of my friends with masters complain, after putting in the effort to get masters and sacrificing family time, next job HR tells them that masters add zero value in the calculation of salary. It's just giving you an intangible advantage in terms of boss preferring you, and heighten probability of promotion (CEP if I may borrow this term)

If honours can add 200 dollars minimum, why is Masters disregarded and becomes an intangible advantage? The difficulty to obtain a Masters is not lower than an honours project.

I asked friends in HR, their closest answer is, 'boss says this position don't require' case closed.

Another case of false hopes given by gahmen that we are knowledge based economy?
There is no requirement for masters, why should HR pay you more if you have one? It is like applying for a normal office job and saying you have Class 2,3,4,5 driving licence and expecting extra $500 for this.
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I agree. The person who posted his difficult climb, actually is quite fortunate.

Recently a few of my friends with masters complain, after putting in the effort to get masters and sacrificing family time, next job HR tells them that masters add zero value in the calculation of salary. It's just giving you an intangible advantage in terms of boss preferring you, and heighten probability of promotion (CEP if I may borrow this term)

If honours can add 200 dollars minimum, why is Masters disregarded and becomes an intangible advantage? The difficulty to obtain a Masters is not lower than an honours project.

I asked friends in HR, their closest answer is, 'boss says this position don't require' case closed.

Another case of false hopes given by gahmen that we are knowledge based economy?

In CS, at least for full-time post-graduate studies (ie. diploma, masters or PhD), pay increment is given provided the post-graduate study is directly relevant to the work.
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What is the low starting pay that you say?

Im from SIM UOL too, currently in ministry. Just entered. Degree holder pay.
What ministry.....if i may ask?
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What ministry.....if i may ask?
Msf . Social worker
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Age 26, Mid 2008 fresh grad - starting pay $3300
Current age 37, pay $7200.
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