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Unregistered

17-03-2011 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 10247)

There are two types of civil servants with PhDs. Those who got their PhD before joining the service and those who got theirs after (usually academic or research positions). Either way they're checkmating themselves, it's just a question of before or after.

The reason, for want of a better description, is what you have written: "A PhD does limit the range of jobs and the number of companies that would even look at your CV".

Even academia is not an easy option, especially for our local universities. The number of PhD holders hoping to land an academic position every year far exceeds the number of tenure positions available at NUS, NTU and SMU combined. In fact recently NTU has followed in the footsteps of NUS in spring cleaning its academic positions.

Two words: Management consultancies.

Unregistered

17-03-2011 03:19 PM

curious

Hi guys.

Will it be wise to join public sector at the age of around 40's ?
Armed with 10yrs experience in senior management in strategic /business development in SME/MNC. Hons Degree in business admin/mkt with 2nd Upper. distance learning.
Currently getting $5k/per mth.

What should i be expecting in public sector if i were to be recruited in a senior/manager post.

Pls advice/share.

Thks.

Unregistered

17-03-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 10261)

Sounds like you are looking for a retirement job! :)

With your credentials, I think it's not hard to join the civil service. In fact, at one point, I think they are pretty desperate to attract mid-career entrants. Something to counter "group think" or whatever they call it. So in your interview, try to hype on what you can offer to the civil service (respectfully of course) - the alternative perspectives given your vast experience and the training you got from the private sector.

spastik

17-03-2011 05:24 PM

How are my chances in the public sector?

My stats:
- Econonomics Masters degree (Top Aussie uni), 2nd Upper
- Finance & Business Bachelors (same top aussie uni), 2nd Upper
- Minimal, hence, negligible work experience. Considered ZERO experience.
- Did NS. 2years 3months (i think. around there.)
- 29 before birthday. Almost 30. Ugh
- Married without children. Yet.

What kinda wage can I command or expect in, say, a policy role at a stat board or ministry?

Do i stand a chance in those tough intelligence positions as well?

Appreciate the advice. Thanks!

blackswan

17-03-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 10251)

That doesn't require any PhD training at all. This is all very business and practical, why need 4 years worth of theoretical training? Corporate honchos without PhDs can master those details.

There are some Dir positions which justify a PhD. Statistical services, economics research, those more technical divisions. If other than those, you just need to be generally smart.

i agree dir dont need phd at all for most positions.

i am trying to say they are not " doing general admin and nothing that requires a phd level of intellect."

they still need to be smart , or even smarter than phds although they need not know technical/specialised knowledge which is possessed by phds.

And dont mistaken an Admin service officer with the officer in the admin dept in charge of stationery , storeroom and furniture . :eek:

Unregistered

20-03-2011 03:24 PM

is there anything beyond MX9? I believe I have heard of MX8 and MX7 at least, but nobody seems to talk about them...

Unregistered

21-03-2011 01:26 AM

Can someone share how much one gets per year for being on the HiPo programme, please?

Thank you.

miwashi

21-03-2011 09:53 AM

based on the CEP mechanism, does it mean that if you are very good at the job but your bosses think you have low CEP, your ultimate endpoint would be much lower (from a salary cap viewpoint) than someone who might not be good at the job but is felt to have high CEP, and in turn advances to a director position?

Unregistered

21-03-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miwashi (Post 10344)

based on the CEP mechanism, does it mean that if you are very good at the job but your bosses think you have low CEP, your ultimate endpoint would be much lower (from a salary cap viewpoint) than someone who might not be good at the job but is felt to have high CEP, and in turn advances to a director position?

in my opinion, lots of people with that description (boldfaced) have made it. they are the ones who helped to create things like two's enough, graduate mum scheme, cheap betterer fasterest campaign, MR4 SR9 salary benchmarks, raise gst to help the poor, YOG budgeting, open casinos to create jobs for foreigners, etc.

they are pretty good, aren't they?

miwashi

21-03-2011 04:57 PM

ahhhhhh. i see.

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