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Old 03-08-2017, 09:09 PM
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Amused by all the trolls here. What do you want to achieve? To deceive yourself into believing that you are not as worthless as you really are? Or are you helping PSD to dupe everyone into entering CS? Lol.
All the posts about them receiving 4k+ starting pay or getting large increments every year are total BS.
For those who are keen on entering CS, my advice is to go for the job scope and not because you think CS will pay well. Unless you are thinking of entering MFA, Mindef or becoming MHA officers (i.e. ICA SOs, police SOs), the truth is the pay is not what you think it will be in the other ministries.

Just for a more accurate picture, im a female, almost 2 years in CS, NTU FCH, in a ministry not listed above.
2015 Sep - MX13 $34XX
2016 Sep - MX13 $36XX
2017 Apr - MX13 $37XX (after Apr increment), will likely be promoted to MX12 after i hit my 2 year mark.

FACT: In some ministries, you are not promoted to MX12 after a year. Although yes, there are ministries which do so.

FACT: No one gets promoted to MX11 after just being promoted to MX12 the year before. I would say average is 3 years.

FACT: There will be increment every year, but not as much as you think.

Some people may say im being shortchanged for my FCH, but a check with my colleagues show that this is the standard pay (e.g my colleagues who got a second upper earns less than me) in the ministry.

So yes, if you want high pay in CS, go join ICA or SPF lor.




Don't joke. Im male, 5 years in CS, NUS FCH.

Starting pay already 4.5k. Starting off with 3.4 is really low.

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Old 04-08-2017, 08:01 AM
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I am from a ministry and a female also NTU FCH. Working around the same time as you but maybe half a year more.

Feb 2015 - $34xx
Feb 2016 - $39xx
Apr 2017 - $42xx

You are underpaid my dear.


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Amused by all the trolls here. What do you want to achieve? To deceive yourself into believing that you are not as worthless as you really are? Or are you helping PSD to dupe everyone into entering CS? Lol.
All the posts about them receiving 4k+ starting pay or getting large increments every year are total BS.
For those who are keen on entering CS, my advice is to go for the job scope and not because you think CS will pay well. Unless you are thinking of entering MFA, Mindef or becoming MHA officers (i.e. ICA SOs, police SOs), the truth is the pay is not what you think it will be in the other ministries.

Just for a more accurate picture, im a female, almost 2 years in CS, NTU FCH, in a ministry not listed above.
2015 Sep - MX13 $34XX
2016 Sep - MX13 $36XX
2017 Apr - MX13 $37XX (after Apr increment), will likely be promoted to MX12 after i hit my 2 year mark.

FACT: In some ministries, you are not promoted to MX12 after a year. Although yes, there are ministries which do so.

FACT: No one gets promoted to MX11 after just being promoted to MX12 the year before. I would say average is 3 years.

FACT: There will be increment every year, but not as much as you think.

Some people may say im being shortchanged for my FCH, but a check with my colleagues show that this is the standard pay (e.g my colleagues who got a second upper earns less than me) in the ministry.

So yes, if you want high pay in CS, go join ICA or SPF lor.




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Don't joke. Im male, 5 years in CS, NUS FCH.

Starting pay already 4.5k. Starting off with 3.4 is really low.
i can call this bullshiat. clearly u are not in cs/ps cos u would know males got ns adjustment and will get higher starting than females

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Saw some of the posts above. I've been in the service for 5 years. Would like to say that yes, there are some who's starting pay really is $4k ish. It depends on 2 things:

1) What scheme are you on? Economists scheme for example pays well. Their starting pay for FCH is in from $4k ish.
2) Which Ministry/ Stat Board are you in? Uniform group have different starting salary tiers for different classes of Honours, and Stat Boards are more flexible. In fact, certain economic/ finance stat boards pay more than the Ministries.

For promotion and increment, again it depends on which agencies/ Ministries you're in. Certain Ministries are choke full of scholars; the probability of you having (faster) promotion is much harder than if you were to compare to your peers in agencies/ Ministries where there are lesser scholars. And it also depends on how much budget your agencies/ Ministries have ring-fenced for the increment/ bonus. This is also dependent on the Singapore economic outlook. If its bad, the % increment will also be lesser.

Would also like to highlight that there are scholars who are promoted twice in a roll, i.e. MX11 within 2 years. In fact I have personally seen one who was MX11 within 1 year; it was a combination of pure luck (the date the person entered service) and the person's academic accomplishments. And your bosses have to like you of course.

In summary, don't be a sour grape and complain when you see others (scholars or not) getting ahead of you so fast and earning more. If that is the case, then you are better off in the private sector, where you have a more "equal" opportunity to prove your worth. Mind though, I reckon it'll be the same regardless private or public.


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Got a question on this officer's CEP. Seems high but need confirmation

Years in service: 6 years
Age: 32
Male

2012- C grade mx 12 (First ranking)
2013 - B grade mx 12
2014- B grade mx 12
2015 B grade mx 11 (Promotion)
2016 B grade mx 11
2017 - B grade mx 11A (Promotion)

How is the trajectory? What is the current cep 10 or possibly 9?
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Got a question on this officer's CEP. Seems high but need confirmation

Years in service: 6 years
Age: 32
Male

2012- C grade mx 12 (First ranking)
2013 - B grade mx 12
2014- B grade mx 12
2015 B grade mx 11 (Promotion)
2016 B grade mx 11
2017 - B grade mx 11A (Promotion)

How is the trajectory? What is the current cep 10 or possibly 9?
What is your class of honours with NS.
It would be good if you insert all your basic salary for 2012 till 2017
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What is your class of honours with NS.
It would be good if you insert all your basic salary for 2012 till 2017
Seems like a case of high performer, but Low cep, as there are only two promotions in 6 years.
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Background: mid-career hirer from pte sector into a stat board

2014: Starting at 8.1k
2015: 8.7k (1st appraisal) C grade
2016: 9k C grade
2017: 9.2k C grade

Peers with fewer years experience are getting ahead.
Should i quit CS and return to pte sector? Or is my cep very low and hence things got stagnant? No adverse comments during appraisals from supervisor.
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What is your class of honours with NS.
It would be good if you insert all your basic salary for 2012 till 2017
2nd upper from an overseas uni

To clarify, joined in 2011 and 2012 was a confirmation promotion. So technically, 3 promo in 6 years.
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I am planning to move from one public sector to another public sector due to the very suitable job scopes that the new position has. If it is successful, the jump may happen in Nov. or Dec. If i don't apply this time, I am afraid I will miss this chance and there won't be such opening in the near future. I wonder whether i can still get the AWS and PB from the old organization, or how i can negotiate with both organizations?

Anyone experienced similar situations before and any suggestions, please?

Thank you!!!
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